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		<title>Getting Personal &amp; Meet My Fiancee</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 23:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Maarschalk</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A couple of readers have encouraged me to get more personal from time to time in my posts. So, by request, I&#8217;ll do that briefly in this post. I grew up in Canton, Ohio, home of the Football Hall of Fame. I&#8217;m the oldest of five boys. Here&#8217;s a picture of all of us, along [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=kloposmasm.com&amp;blog=8756029&amp;post=1745&amp;subd=kloposmasm&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align:justify;">A couple of readers have encouraged me to get more personal from time to time in my posts. So, by request, I&#8217;ll do that briefly in this post.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">I grew up in Canton, Ohio, home of the Football Hall of Fame. I&#8217;m the oldest of five boys. Here&#8217;s a picture of all of us, along with my parents (I&#8217;m in the blue shirt and white shorts next to my mom), in 2005:</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">After high school, I spent three years earning an Associates Degree at a college in Dallas, Texas. I then lived in Malaysia for nearly six years (2001-2007), teaching English in two different language centers for most of that time. I love the people there, the food, the culture, the incredible hospitality, and the weather (hot and humid). When possible, I loved spending time in the villages, and I got involved in a couple of different Village Homestay programs, to the point of helping coordinate with groups of westerners who were open to staying in village homes. With God&#8217;s help, I became (and remain) fluent in the Malay language. Here I am with my first host family in a village in late 2001 (and the same family again in 2004):</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><a href="http://kloposmasm.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/hulu-chuchoh-11-sahadans-family2.jpg"><img class=" wp-image-1765 alignnone" title="Hulu Chuchoh 11 Sahadan's family" src="http://kloposmasm.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/hulu-chuchoh-11-sahadans-family2.jpg?w=315&#038;h=224" alt="" width="315" height="224" /></a><a href="http://kloposmasm.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/hulu-chuchoh-1-junita-kids-early-20045.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-1768" title="Hulu Chuchoh 1 Junita &amp; kids (early 2004)" src="http://kloposmasm.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/hulu-chuchoh-1-junita-kids-early-20045.jpg?w=300&#038;h=225" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Since late summer 2007 I&#8217;ve been living in Minneapolis. In addition to working and completing course work through Northwestern College (off and on, admittedly), I got involved for a while in tutoring Somalians in English through a program called SALT (Somali Adult Literacy Training). [There are more Somalians, Hmong, Liberians, and Oromos (from Ethiopia) in the Twin Cities (Minneapolis/Saint Paul) than anywhere else in the United States.] At this time, I&#8217;m beginning to volunteer again with a group of people who are reaching out especially to refugees in Saint Paul (a significant number of Somalian Muslims live across the street from a Drop-in Center that opened up there in November 2011).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">From the 4th quarter of 2010 through the 3rd quarter of 2011 I experienced the toughest ordeal of my life, something I would never wish on anyone. God knows the details, as do some family members and friends. I alluded to this briefly in <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://kloposmasm.com/2011/04/15/prioritizing-gods-kingdom-is-an-antidote-to-anxiety/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">one post</span></a></span> back in April. Some recovery is behind me, and some is yet ahead, especially financially. Yet I&#8217;m grateful to God for the deliverance that He brought about, and the grace that He showed me throughout that time.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Among my hobbies and interests are sports, writing, international foods and culture, and traveling (it&#8217;s been too long since I&#8217;ve done that, aside from driving to and from Ohio a couple times a year).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Last but not least, I&#8217;m now (since mid-November) engaged to be married to Jasmine, a girl who is beautiful on the inside and the outside. She&#8217;s a true blessing and a gift from God. We are from the same hometown in Ohio, and actually met for the first time about 11 years ago. Perhaps she and/or I will share more on this blog about how God brought us together in a relationship last year, at a time when both of us were facing some tough circumstances. For now, here are a couple of recent pictures of the two of us:</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><a href="http://kloposmasm.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/prof-photo-11.jpg"><img class="wp-image-1753 alignnone" title="Prof photo 1" src="http://kloposmasm.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/prof-photo-11.jpg?w=400&#038;h=300" alt="" width="400" height="300" /></a><a href="http://kloposmasm.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/prof-photo-22.jpg"><img class="alignnone  wp-image-1769" title="Prof photo 2" src="http://kloposmasm.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/prof-photo-22.jpg?w=250&#038;h=315" alt="" width="250" height="315" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Jasmine is now an author on this blog, and plans to contribute some posts beginning in the very near future, with topics ranging from spiritual to lifestyle.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">When this blog began in August 2009, four of us from a home-based Bible study group (Dave, Rod, Mike, and I) contributed to <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://kloposmasm.com/revelation/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">a series on the book of Revelation</span></a></span>. Mike is not likely to post anything else in the future, Rod may or may not, and Dave will probably post from time to time (here&#8217;s his most recent post regarding his prosthetic leg, titled &#8220;<span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://kloposmasm.com/2011/09/27/running-with-hope/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Running With Hope</span></a></span>&#8220;). Presently, there are three other guys in the Bible study group: Aby (from India), Pat, and Brian. None of these three are into blogging. One other friend, Mark, who lives near Oakland, California, has been designated as an author on this blog, though his future posts remain only in the planning stage.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Thanks for reading, and may God bless you.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Adam</p>
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		<title>John Hagee and Benny Hinn: Warmongering for the Wrong Kingdom</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 19:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Maarschalk</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit&#8221; (Romans 14:17). Those who follow Christ are citizens of God&#8217;s kingdom. One of its characteristics, says Paul, is peace. This truth and others concerning God&#8217;s kingdom seem to be completely lost on [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=kloposmasm.com&amp;blog=8756029&amp;post=1731&amp;subd=kloposmasm&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align:justify;">&#8220;<em>For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit</em>&#8221; (Romans 14:17). Those who follow Christ are citizens of God&#8217;s kingdom. One of its characteristics, says Paul, is peace. This truth and others concerning God&#8217;s kingdom seem to be completely lost on some of today&#8217;s most popular teachers, as we will see shortly. According to Jesus, His kingdom is also not earthly or political, not even observable by the human eye:</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;"><em>Once, on being asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, Jesus replied, “The coming of the kingdom of God is not something that can be observed, nor will people say, ‘Here it is,’ or ‘There it is,’ because the kingdom of God is in your midst</em> [or 'in you']&#8221; (Luke 17:20-21).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">John the Baptist and Jesus both preached the nearness of God&#8217;s kingdom during their time, repeatedly saying that this kingdom was &#8220;<em>at hand</em>&#8221; (e.g. Matthew 3:2, 4:17). In Mark 1:15, Jesus even prefaced His statement by saying &#8220;<em>The time is fulfilled</em>.&#8221; Did His assurance on this point reflect any time statements in the Old Testament regarding the kingdom? The writings of the prophet Daniel are most helpful in this regard. Daniel 7:13-14 pictures Jesus <strong>ascending</strong> to His Father and receiving an everlasting kingdom that would never be destroyed (&#8220;&#8230;<em>behold with the clouds of heaven there came One like a son of man, and <strong>He came to</strong> the Ancient of Days and was presented before Him. And to Him was given dominion and glory and a kingdom</em>&#8230;&#8221;).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">At this point, Daniel looks to a subsequent time when the saints would soon possess this kingdom forever (Daniel 7:18, 22, 27). This would occur following a time when &#8220;<em>the fourth beast</em>&#8221; would make war with the saints &#8220;<em>until the Ancient of Days came</em>&#8221; (verses 21-22). Many say that this has not yet happened. We know, however, that Jesus promised to come [1] in His kingdom [2] in the glory of His Father [3] with His angels [4] and in judgment <strong>while some of His disciples</strong> (Matthew 16:27-28) <strong>and some people among His larger audience</strong> (Mark 8:34-9:1) <strong>were still alive</strong>, i.e. in the first century AD. This timing is further substantiated when we see that Jesus, in the Parable of the Tenants, told the religious leaders of Israel that the kingdom of God would be <span style="text-decoration:underline;">taken away from them</span> and &#8220;<em>given to a people producing its fruits</em>&#8221; (Matthew 21:43-45), i.e. the Church, or in Daniel&#8217;s words, &#8220;<em>the saints of the Most High</em>.&#8221; This was to take place in their generation, as Jesus outlined in great detail in the Olivet Discourse (Matthew 24, Mark 13, Luke 21).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Yet another indication of this timing can be seen clearly earlier in the book of Daniel, when he interpreted Nebuchadnezzar&#8217;s dream: “<em>And <strong>in the days of those kings*</strong> the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that shall never be destroyed, nor shall the kingdom be left to another people</em>” (Daniel 2:44). [<strong>*</strong>Biblical scholars hold a virtual consensus that the four kingdoms in Daniel’s vision were Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, and Rome. Since Rome was destroyed in 476 AD, we know that, for this prophecy to be true, the kingdom was set up before that time.] A first century fulfillment fits; a 21<sup>st</sup> century fulfillment doesn’t.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">So the meaning of all this is that God&#8217;s kingdom is now fully present (and has been for many centuries), it is spiritual and not physical, and one of its characteristics is peace. Similarly, God&#8217;s people now belong to Jerusalem, not the earthly one, but rather the heavenly one. Observe what the author of Hebrews wrote to his first century audience:</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">&#8220;<em>But <strong>you have come to</strong> Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, <strong>the heavenly Jerusalem</strong></em>&#8230;&#8221; (Hebrews 12:22). This truth does not await a future fulfillment, but again has been a present reality for the body of Christ for many centuries. An overview of Hebrews 12:18-28 equates the heavenly Jerusalem with [1] the new covenant (verse 24) and [2] a kingdom that cannot be shaken (verse 28), and contrasts it with the old covenant given through Moses at Mount Sinai (verses 18-21), represented by things that were about to be shaken and removed at that time (verses 26-27). This was accomplished during Israel&#8217;s great tribulation (67-70 AD), at which time God&#8217;s kingdom was also fully established and set up. This same comparing/contrasting of the two covenants (new and old), and the two Jerusalems (earthly and heavenly) can be seen in Paul&#8217;s great allegory of two women (Galatians 4:21-31). Most interestingly, two women are also pictured in the book of Revelation, [1] the adulterous harlot known as &#8220;Babylon the Great&#8221; and [2] the bride of Christ. One is thrown out, the other is chosen forever. The striking similarities between Galatians 4, Hebrews 12, and Revelation regarding the covenants, Jerusalem (above and below), and God&#8217;s kingdom are no coincidence. <em>Selah</em>.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The blessings of God belong to those who are His by faith in His Son Jesus, and not according to ethnicity, another truth lost on some of today&#8217;s most popular teachers who insist that ethnic Jews are God&#8217;s chosen people. Paul couldn&#8217;t have been more clear about this (e.g. Galatians 3:16-29).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Enter two of America&#8217;s most influential teachers and televangelists, John Hagee and Benny Hinn. In this incredibly sad and disgusting video clip, John Hagee, hosted by Benny Hinn, openly prays for God to lead the United States into war against &#8220;the enemies of righteousness&#8221; (apparently Iran), for the alleged benefit of Israel:</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://kloposmasm.com/2012/01/07/john-hagee-and-benny-hinn-warmongering-for-the-wrong-kingdom/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/U4dl91wuHKY/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Keeping in mind that peace is one of the traits of God&#8217;s kingdom, recall Jesus&#8217; famous and powerful words in the Sermon on the Mount: &#8220;<em>Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called the children of God</em>&#8221; (Matthew 5:9). <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://pjmiller.wordpress.com/2012/01/06/john-hagee-with-benny-hinn-praying-for-war-in-jesus-name/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">PJ Miller well points out</span></a></span> the excellent commentary on this verse by Albert Barnes (in 1834):</p>
<blockquote><p>Those who strive to prevent contention, strife, and war; who use their influence to reconcile opposing parties, and to prevent lawsuits and hostilities in families and neighborhoods. Every man may do something of this; and no man is more like God than he who does it. <strong>There ought not to be unlawful and officious interference in that which is none of our business</strong>; but without any danger of acquiring this character, every man has many opportunities of reconciling opposing parties. Friends, neighbors, people of influence, lawyers, physicians, ministers of the gospel, may do much to promote peace. And it should be taken in hand in the beginning. “The beginning of strife,” says Solomon, “is like the letting out of water.”</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align:justify;">I’m not sure if it’s possible to more blatantly contradict Jesus’ teaching on being peacemakers than what we see in this video. Furthermore, Iran should not be considered the enemy of God’s people who live in America or Britain. Yet, even if we could (hypothetically) say that Iran fills this role, we come face to face with these very powerful words of Jesus, also found in the Sermon on the Mount:</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">“<em>But I say unto you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who despitefully use you, and persecute you</em>.”</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Unless I’ve missed something in the news, how is Hagee so confident that the United States WILL go to war? He says this twice, at the 1:33 mark and again at the 1:55 mark in this video. The way he prayed this “prayer,” one would think he was a close presidential advisor equipped with key inside information that most don’t yet have. His use of the phrase “against the enemies of righteousness” implies that the whole of the United States is righteous and outsiders are not. The angels of heaven even allegedly go before the US army, and Britain’s army as well (2:00 mark).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Just as John Hagee seems to care nothing about the Christian Palestinian population (instead &#8220;favoring&#8221; mostly unbelieving Jews**), he also implicates the Christians in Iran with his warmongering schemes that would result in their demise, if he could have his way. According <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.revivaliniran.org/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">to some</span></a></span>, Iran is quietly experiencing its greatest revival ever in terms of people coming to Christ:</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://kloposmasm.com/2012/01/07/john-hagee-and-benny-hinn-warmongering-for-the-wrong-kingdom/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/0sL2c6rr5dI/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">John Hagee is warmongering instead of seeking peace, and he&#8217;s doing so for the wrong kingdom, one that is earthly instead of heavenly, visible instead of spiritual. The Christian Zionist movement he so openly represents is also deeply concerned with (in a distorted way) the wrong Jerusalem, again the earthly one instead of the heavenly one. My hope is that blatant displays of disobedience to God’s word like this will cause even more people to question and turn away from Christian Zionist theology.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">John Hagee and others who hold to futurist, dispensationalist teachings tend to believe and proclaim that this generation is ripe for worldwide judgment, that we&#8217;re on the precipice of great doom and destruction and decline, that we&#8217;ll soon see the end of world history, etc. I believe this generation is pivotal for reasons that are quite the opposite. Many are awakening to the truth that God&#8217;s kingdom is already fully established, and that His people are called to advance it in peaceful and spiritually powerful ways. If this generation of God&#8217;s people turns away from the doomsday message of teachers like John Hagee, and instead embraces the truth of the New Testament and walks in the realities of the New Covenant established by Christ, great things can happen in the near future and in generations ahead of us. May it be.</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">**John Hagee, who many might think deeply cares for Jews, raises millions of dollars to bring them to Israel, where, according to his teaching, two (2) out of every three (3) Jews will one day soon be slaughtered in a tribulation that is greater than anything the Jews experienced in 67-70 AD or during the Holocaust of the last century.</p>
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		<title>A Study of II Thessalonians 2:1-8</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Maarschalk</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Scripture text for this study: II Thess. 2:1-8  1Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we ask you, brothers, 2not to be quickly shaken in mind or alarmed, either by a spirit or a spoken word, or a letter seeming to be from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=kloposmasm.com&amp;blog=8756029&amp;post=1712&amp;subd=kloposmasm&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p align="center">Scripture text for this study: <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=II%20Thessalonians%202:1-8&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">II Thess. 2:1-8</span></a></span></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><em> <strong><sup>1</sup></strong>Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we ask you, brothers, <strong><sup>2</sup></strong>not to be quickly shaken in mind or alarmed, either by a spirit or a spoken word, or a letter seeming to be from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come. <strong><sup>3</sup></strong> Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, <strong><sup>4</sup></strong>who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God. <strong><sup>5</sup></strong>Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things? <strong><sup>6</sup></strong>And you know what is restraining him now so that he may be revealed in his time. <strong><sup>7</sup></strong>For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work. Only he who now restrains it will do so until he is out of the way.<strong><sup>8</sup></strong>And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will kill with the breath of his mouth and bring to nothing by the appearance of his coming.</em></p>
<h2 style="text-align:center;"><span style="text-decoration:underline;">BACKGROUND</span></h2>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Just like the seven churches who first received the book of Revelation in the form of a letter, Paul wrote to a church in Thessalonica that was under persecution (<span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=II%20Thessalonians%201:4-7&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">II Thessalonians 1:4-7</span></a></span>). This persecution was evidently coming from the Jews, based in part on <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%2017:1-13&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Acts 17:1-13</span></a></span> and <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=I%20Thessalonians%202:14-16&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">I Thessalonians 2:14-16</span></a></span>. The first Imperial (Roman) persecution against Christians under Nero had not yet begun, since this book was written around 52 AD. The Thessalonians would experience relief from their affliction, they were told, when Jesus came in vengeance and to be glorified in and marveled at by His people (<span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=II%20Thess.%201:7-10&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">II Thess. 1:7-10</span></a></span>). That Paul expected his first century readers to experience this relief firsthand is no surprise when we remember that Jesus Himself promised to come bringing recompense with Him while some of His 12 disciples were still alive (<span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2016:27-28&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Matthew 16:27-28</span></a></span>).</p>
<h2 style="text-align:center;"><span style="text-decoration:underline;">VERSES 1-2</span></h2>
<p style="text-align:justify;">In this regard, Paul writes to a church that was concerned that they had missed His coming, for Paul writes: “<em>Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to Him, we ask you, brothers, not to be quickly shaken in mind or alarmed, either by a spirit or a spoken word, or a letter seeming to be from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come</em>” (II Thess. 2:1-2). We must consider the nature of their expectation about these things. For if their expectation of the Lord’s coming was that it would be visible, that it would bring an end to the world, or that it would result in the instant removal of all believers from the earth, it’s hard to imagine how they could be led to believe that these things had already occurred. If the Day of the Lord referred to “a rapture,” and they thought it may have already occurred, why would Paul still be around? As <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://low5point.wordpress.com/2009/02/04/rapture-passages-2-thessalonians/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">David Lowman, a Presbyterian pastor, has written</span></a></span>, “Now, if on the other hand, the Thessalonians believed the Day of the Lord to be the coming judgment against apostate Israel, then asking about that event would make sense. And if they had friends or relatives in the Judean area it would easily explain their concern that the Day of the Lord had passed.”</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">David Lowman points out that the Greek word for the phrase “gathered together,” <em>episunagoge</em>, used in II Thess. 2:1, appears three times in the New Testament: [1] in Matthew 24:31 (“…<em>and He will send out His angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will <strong>gather</strong> His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other</em>”; see <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://kloposmasm.com/2011/08/23/the-olivet-discourse-this-generation-or-that-generation-part-4-of-4/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">our study of this passage</span></a></span>), [2] here in this passage, [3] and in Hebrews 10:25 (“<em>not neglecting to <strong>meet together</strong>, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another, and all the more as you see the Day drawing near</em>.”). In each of these cases the term denotes the fellowship of believers or the gathering of the Church in terms of the spread of the gospel.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Lowman notes that, where this term was used in the Olivet Discourse, it was the fall of the temple and Jerusalem that enabled the gospel to be spread apart from infringement by Jewish authorities and the Judaizers. Also recall that in I Thessalonians 2:14-16 Paul says “the Jews…<em>oppose all mankind by hindering us from speaking to the Gentiles that they might be saved—so as always to fill up the measure of their sins. But God’s wrath has come upon them at last</em>!” Paul saw the coming judgment upon apostate Israel, which Jesus had repeatedly prophesied was to come, as a good development for the spread of the gospel among the nations.</p>
<h2 style="text-align:center;"><span style="text-decoration:underline;">VERSES 3-4</span></h2>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Paul states that two events had to occur before the day of the Lord would come: [1] the rebellion, and [2] the revealing of the man of lawlessness.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The Greek word “apostasia” is used here in verse 3 for “the rebellion.” It can mean either [1] rebellion or [2] falling away. Most modern translations now render it as “rebellion.” So this doesn’t have to mean a falling away that is only spiritual in nature, but it can also indicate a social or political rebellion. History tells us that a large-scale Jewish rebellion rose up in 66 AD which led to Nero declaring war on Israel in February 67 AD, precisely 3.5 years before Jerusalem was crushed and the temple fell in late August 70 AD. This rebellion began about 15 years after Paul wrote this letter. It appears that Paul made the argument that the Day of the Lord’s judgment against Israel would not take place before the rebellion led by the Zealots had already occurred, and this is exactly how it played out in history (see <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://kloposmasm.com/2009/08/16/pp17-the-historical-events-leading-up-to-70-ad-part-1/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">this post</span></a></span> and <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://kloposmasm.com/2009/08/22/pp18-the-historical-events-leading-up-to-70-ad-part-2/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">this post</span></a></span> for more details).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Verse 4 says that the man of lawlessness “<em>opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God</em>.” Among futurists, i.e. those who believe that this prophecy has not yet been fulfilled, it is popularly held that a third temple must be rebuilt in Jerusalem, and then a future antichrist figure will literally sit in that temple. Among those who do believe this was fulfilled in the first century, some believe (as I do) that Nero was the man of lawlessness referred to here by Paul, while others believe that it was Titus. Some question the idea that Nero was the man of sin because he is not known to have physically entered into the Jerusalem temple, as Titus did in 70 AD. However, is it correct to believe that Paul was even referring to a physical temple, or is this interpretation perhaps off-track from the very beginning?</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">On the other hand, some have interpreted the phrase “<em>temple of God</em>” to refer to the Church (e.g. Ephesians 2:11-22), rather than to any physical temple. I agree with this interpretation. In other words, the man of lawlessness would attempt to usurp the place of God as the object of supreme worship within the Church. This Nero did. [He had coins minted on which he was called “Savior” and “God.” Those living in Rome were required by law to publicly proclaim their allegiance to Caesar by burning a pinch of incense and declaring, “Caesar is Lord,” after which time they were then given a document called a “libellus,” which was necessary for engaging in commerce in the Roman marketplace. More is written on this <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://kloposmasm.com/2009/11/07/revelation-chapter-13-part-2-verse-11-identity-of-beast-2/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">here</span></a></span> and <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://kloposmasm.com/2009/11/14/revelation-chapter-13-part-3-verses-12-18/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">here</span></a></span>.] Regarding the physical temple which stood in Paul’s day, let’s remember that God had already rejected that temple as His own. As Jesus said to the Jewish leaders in His day, “<em>See, </em><em>YOUR</em><em> house is left to you desolate</em>” (Matthew 23:38). Why would the Holy Spirit then, speaking through Paul, refer to the Jerusalem temple as the “temple OF GOD”?</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Alan Campbell, a pastor in Belfast, Ireland, has pointed out that when Paul spoke of “the temple of God,” he used the Greek word, “Naos.” According to Young’s Analytical Concordance, this word means “a dwelling place or inner sanctuary.” When Jesus used this word in John 2:19-21, He referred to His own body. When Paul used it in I Corinthians 3:17 and II Cor. 6:16, it was to say that Christ’s followers are “<em>the temple of the living God</em>.” When Paul used it again in Ephesians 2:21, it was to say that the Church “<em>grows into a holy temple in the Lord</em>.” If Paul had wanted to say that the man of sin would sit in a physical temple, says Pastor Campbell, “he would undoubtedly have used the Greek word ‘hieron,’ which is used on some 25 other occasions to describe the Jewish temple at Jerusalem.”</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Many futurists today believe that Paul spoke of a physical temple which, in our time, has not yet been rebuilt. Is there any way that the Thessalonian believers would have understood Paul’s words this way? They knew from Jesus’ own prophecies that the Jerusalem temple they were acquainted with would be destroyed in their own generation (Matthew 23:29-24:1, 24:3, 24:34; Luke 19:41-44, Luke 21:5-33, etc.). How strange it would have been for them to consider that this temple would later BE REPLACED in order to grant a momentary seat to a lawless one, a person whom they didn’t even need to be concerned about because he was generations away from appearing. It’s even more impossible to conceive of such a rebuilt temple being regarded as “the temple OF GOD.” Those who are trying to initiate this project in the 21<sup>st</sup> century hope to resume the Old Covenant sacrifices, which is an outright rejection of Christ and another wave of apostasy. It’s a tragedy that many professing Christians in America today are actually passionate about seeing such a project come to pass in modern Israel, even to the point of collectively donating millions of dollars to see it happen.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Lactantius (260-330 AD), embracing the viewpoint that by “temple of God” Paul was referring to the Church, said that Nero became enraged by the “faithful and steadfast <strong>TEMPLE OF THE LORD</strong>” built through the evangelism of Peter, Paul, and the early Church. So Nero “sprung forward to raze <strong>THE HEAVENLY TEMPLE</strong> and destroy the true faith.”</p>
<h2 style="text-align:center;"><span style="text-decoration:underline;">VERSES 5-7</span></h2>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Paul reminded the Thessalonians that he had already discussed these things with them in person (verse 5), and his language indicates that we are not given all the details of their conversation. Apparently, Paul had privately discussed with them the identity of the man of lawlessness and the entity that was restraining him, because he says, “<em>And <strong>YOU KNOW</strong> what is restraining him now so that he may be revealed in his time</em>” (verse 6). This points to a first-century fulfillment, as does Paul’s next statement: “<em>For the mystery of lawlessness is <strong>ALREADY</strong> at work. Only he who <strong>NOW</strong> restrains it will do so until he is out of the way</em>” (verse 7).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">James Stuart Russell, whose book, “<em>Parousia,”</em> in 1878 has been cited favorably by Charles Spurgeon and (more recently) R.C. Sproul, wrote the following about the immediate relevance of this subject to the Thessalonians:</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">“Is it not obvious that whoever the man of sin may be, he must be someone with whom the apostle [Paul] and his readers had to do? Is he not writing to living men about matters in which they are intensely interested? Why should he delineate the features of this mysterious personage to the Thessalonians if he was one with whom the Thessalonians had nothing to do, from whom they had nothing to fear, and who would not be revealed for ages yet to come? It is clear that he speaks of one whose influence was already beginning to be felt, and whose unchecked and lawless fury would [before] long burst forth. But why does not the apostle speak out frankly? Why this reserve and reticence in darkly hinting what he does not name? …Obviously, <em>because it was not safe to be more explicit…</em>”</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The early church father, Augustine (354-430 AD), held to the same interpretation:</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">“Some think that these words refer to the <strong>Roman empire</strong>, and that the apostle Paul did not wish to write more explicitly, lest he should incur a charge of calumny against the Roman empire, in wishing ill to it when men hoped that it was to be everlasting. So in the words, ‘<strong>For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work,</strong>’ HE REFERRED TO NERO<strong>,</strong> whose deeds already seemed to be as those of Antichrist” (emphasis added).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Chrysostom (347-407 AD) also agreed, saying:“‘For the mystery of lawlessness doth already work.’ HE SPEAKS HERE OF NERO… But he did not also wish to point him out plainly: and this not from cowardice, but instructing us not to bring upon ourselves unnecessary enmities, when there is nothing to call for it” (emphasis added). Others who taught that Nero was the man of lawlessness include Clement of Alexandria [150-215 AD], Tertullian [160-220 AD], and Jerome [347-420 AD], who, interestingly enough said, “<strong>Th</strong><strong>ere are MANY of our viewpoint who think that Domitius Nero was the Antichrist because of his outstanding savagery and depravity</strong>.” James Stuart Russell continues,</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">“But how striking are the indications that point to Nero in the year when this epistle was written, say A.D. 52 or 53. At that time Nero was not yet ‘manifested;’ his true character was not discovered; he had not yet succeeded to the Empire. Claudius, his step-father, lived, and stood in the way of the son of Agrippina. But that hindrance was soon removed. In less than a year, probably, after this epistle was received by the Thessalonians, Claudius was ‘taken out of the way,’ a victim to the deadly practice of the infamous Agrippina; her son also, according to Suetonius, being accessory to the deed. But ‘the mystery of lawlessness was already working;’ the influence of Nero must have been powerful in the last days of the wretched Claudius; the very plots were probably being hatched that paved the way for the accession of the son of the murderess. A few months more would witness the advent to the throne of the world of a miscreant whose name is gibbeted in everlasting infamy as the most brutal of tyrants and the vilest of men.”</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Victorinus, another church father who was martyred in the year 303 AD, in his commentary on Revelation, wrote:</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">“[John tells us that the beast] was in the kingdom of <strong>the Romans</strong>, and that he was among the <strong>Caesars</strong>. The Apostle Paul also bears witness, for he says to the Thessalonians: ‘Let him who now restraineth restrain, until he be taken out of the way; and then shall appear the <strong>Wicked One</strong>, even he whose coming is after the working of Satan, with signs and lying wonders.’ And that they might know that he should come <strong>WHO THEN WAS THE PRINCE</strong>, he adds: ‘He already endeavours after the secret of mischief’ – that is, the mischief which he is about to do he strives to do secretly; but he is not raised up by his own power, nor by that of his father, but by command of God.”</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Victorinus here connects “the beast” from the book of Revelation with the Roman empire. He also links “the Wicked One” [a.k.a. the lawless one] with the person who was prince when Paul wrote (Nero), and who would follow his father (Claudius) to the throne just about two years later (in 54 AD).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">On a humorous note, Dispensationalists often claim that the restrainer is the Holy Spirit, who will be taken out of the way when the Church is allegedly to be snatched away (in “the Rapture”) before a future 7-year Tribulation. This creates a dilemma, though, because Dispensationalism also says that there will be a revival during the Tribulation led by 144,000 Jewish evangelists. It’s impossible, however, that so many Jews, or anyone at all, could come to faith in Christ without the work of the Holy Spirit.</p>
<h2 style="text-align:center;"><span style="text-decoration:underline;">VERSE 8</span></h2>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The lawless one, Paul said, would be killed by the appearance of Christ’s coming in vengeance (II Thess. 1:8): “<em>And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will kill with the breath of His mouth and bring to nothing by the appearance of His coming</em>” (II Thess. 2:8). Is it significant that Paul used the expression, “the appearance of…”? Concerning this language, James Stuart Russell (in 1878) said:</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">“In this significant expression we have a note of the <em>time</em> when the man of sin is destined to perish, marked with singular exactitude. It is the coming of the Lord, the Parousia, which is to be the signal of his destruction; yet not the full splendour of that event so much as the first appearance or dawn of it… This evidently implies that the man of sin was destined to perish, not in the full blaze of the Parousia, but at its first dawn or beginning. Now what do we actually find? Remembering how the Parousia is connected with the destruction of Jerusalem, we find that the death of Nero preceded the event. It took place in June A.D. 68, in the very midst of the Jewish war which ended in the capture and destruction of the city and the temple. It might therefore be justly said that ‘the appearance, or dawn, of the Parousia was the signal for the tyrant’s destruction.”</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Bringing Nero “to nothing” was no small thing. Nero began to persecute the Christians throughout the Roman Empire in November 64 AD, after using them as a scapegoat for the large fire which many believe he set himself. The methods he used to put the saints to death were especially vicious, cold-blooded, and inhumane (more details <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://kloposmasm.com/2009/11/15/revelation-13-part-4-neros-beastly-character/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">can be seen here</span></a></span>). This intense persecution only ended when Nero committed suicide in June 68 AD with the help of his personal secretary. Thus he made war on the saints for a period of exactly 42 months (in fulfillment of <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%2013:5-7&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Revelation 13:5-7</span></a></span>; <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Daniel%207:21,%2025&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Daniel 7:21, 25</span></a></span>), until he himself came to an end.</p>
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		<title>Running with hope</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 23:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Demonstrating that you really don’t know what lies around the next corner (literally), drivers heading into downtown St. Paul today see this image of me running around Lake of the Isles. Five years ago, I would have had trouble running to the end of the block.  But at my prosthetist’s encouragement, I was fitted with [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=kloposmasm.com&amp;blog=8756029&amp;post=1689&amp;subd=kloposmasm&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Demonstrating that you really don’t know what lies around the next corner (literally), drivers heading into downtown St. Paul today see this image of me running around Lake of the Isles.</p>
<p><a href="http://kloposmasm.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/tcop-billboard-012-cropped2.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-1692" title="" src="http://kloposmasm.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/tcop-billboard-012-cropped2.jpg?w=300&#038;h=184" alt="" width="300" height="184" /></a>Five years ago, I would have had trouble running to the end of the block.  But at my prosthetist’s encouragement, I was fitted with a running prosthesis and it has been great fun.  The leg works really well and I have been blessed to have run a couple thousand miles over the past few years.</p>
<p>Running was the one activity that I had missed not having a right foot.  As a teenager I would run the mile course near our house or around the high school track.  To be back on the running trail in this season of my life is an unexpected gift.</p>
<p>But there is more to come, and this is where I have fully set my hope.</p>
<p>Reading through the betrayal and arrest of Jesus last week, these sentences grabbed my attention:</p>
<p><em>“And one of them struck the servant of the high priest and cut off his right ear.  But Jesus said, ”No more of this!” And he touched his ear and healed him</em>.”  (Luke 22:50-51)</p>
<p>Imagine the scene.  Out comes the sword and in a moment some guy is looking at his ear on the ground.  The ear isn’t just damaged or mangled — it is gone.  What a shock it must have been for him to be separated from his ear.  But it is absolutely no trouble for Jesus to restore it.  He simply touches what was left and:  <em>a new ear!</em>  All of the intricate tissues and ligaments and skin were created anew and it was shaped just right so that sound could travel down his ear canal.</p>
<p>Those of us who belong to Jesus are looking ahead to the restoration of our bodies in the coming age.  He has promised it in His word and has given us demonstrations of His healing power while He walked on earth.  He can replace an ear and He can replace a right foot.  Complete healing awaits God’s children when their bodies are restored in the next life.</p>
<p>I am delighted and thankful to be able to run around Lake of the Isles with my prosthetic leg.  But one of the joys of eternity for me will be putting on a <em>pair </em>of shoes and running with two feet on a heavenly trail.</p>
<p><em>” . . . set your hope fully on the grace that will be brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ.”  1 Peter 1:13</em></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the first post (Part 1) of this series, we examined the first few verses of Jesus’ famous Olivet Discourse, recorded in Matthew 24:1-3, Mark 13:1-4, and Luke 21:5-7. In the second post, we examined Jesus’ description of the signs which would take place before the temple’s destruction. We saw how those signs were fulfilled between the time of [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=kloposmasm.com&amp;blog=8756029&amp;post=1671&amp;subd=kloposmasm&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align:justify;">In <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://kloposmasm.wordpress.com/2011/04/30/the-olivet-discourse-this-generation-or-that-generation-part-1-of-4/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">the first post (Part 1)</span></a></span> of this series, we examined the first few verses of Jesus’ famous <em>Olivet Discourse</em>, recorded in Matthew 24:1-3, Mark 13:1-4, and Luke 21:5-7. <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://kloposmasm.wordpress.com/2011/05/04/the-olivet-discourse-this-generation-or-that-generation-part-2-of-4/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">In the second post</span></a></span>, we examined Jesus’ description of the signs which would take place before the temple’s destruction. We saw how those signs were fulfilled between the time of His ascension around 30 AD and the temple’s overthrow in 70 AD, about 40 years later. In <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://kloposmasm.wordpress.com/2011/05/09/the-olivet-discourse-this-generation-or-that-generation-part-3-of-4/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">the third post</span></a></span> we examined Jesus’ warning to His followers about a soon-coming “<em>abomination that causes desolation</em>” (Matthew 24:15/Mark 13:14), or, as Luke puts it, “<em>Jerusalem being surrounded by armies</em>” (Luke 21:20). We also considered what Jesus said about a time of great tribulation which was soon to come.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">In this fourth and final part of this series on the Olivet Discourse, we will take a look at Jesus’ prophecy of the heavenly bodies being shaken, a depiction given numerous times in the Old Testament. We will also see that Jesus predicted His own coming “in a cloud”/”on clouds,” another expression borrowed from the OT. We will consider what Jesus meant when He spoke of the fig tree. Then we will conclude by taking stock of Christ’s very foundational statement that all of the above-mentioned prophecies must take place within “this generation.”</p>
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<td valign="top" width="245"><sup>29</sup>“Immediately after the distress of those days “‘the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’<sup>30</sup> “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. <sup>31</sup>And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.<sup>32</sup> “Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. <sup>33</sup> Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it is near, right at the door. <sup>34</sup> <strong>Truly I tell you, <span style="text-decoration:underline;">this generation</span> will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.</strong></td>
<td valign="top" width="245"><sup>24</sup> “But in those days, following that distress, “‘the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; <sup>25</sup>the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’<sup>26</sup> “At that time people will see the Son of Man coming in clouds with great power and glory. <sup>27</sup>And he will send his angels and gather his elect from the four winds, from  the ends of the earth to the ends of the heavens.<sup>28</sup> “Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. <sup>29</sup> Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. <sup>30</sup> <strong>Truly I tell you, <span style="text-decoration:underline;">this generation</span> will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.</strong></td>
<td valign="top" width="245"><sup>25</sup> “There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea. <sup>26</sup> People will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken. <sup>27</sup> At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. <sup>28</sup>When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.”<sup>29</sup> He told them this parable: “Look at the fig tree and all the trees. <sup>30</sup> When they sprout leaves, you can see for yourselves and know that summer is near. <sup>31</sup>Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that the kingdom of God is near.<sup>32</sup> “<strong>Truly I tell you, <span style="text-decoration:underline;">this generation</span> will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.</strong></td>
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<h2 style="text-align:center;"><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><strong>Matt. 24:29/Mark 13:24-25/Luke 21:25-26 (Sun, moon, and stars darkened)</strong></span></h2>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><strong></strong>In the accounts of both Matthew and Mark, Jesus asserts that “<em>the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken</em>.” This was to happen, they said, after the time of distress and tribulation. According to Luke’s account, it would also follow the times of the Gentiles and the trampling of the city of Jerusalem. Luke doesn’t specifically mention the darkening of the heavenly bodies, but simply says that “<em>there will be signs in the sun, moon, and stars</em>.” He gives just as much attention to what would happen on the earth: “<em>[N]ations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea. People will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world</em>.” <strong></strong></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">A look at several Old Testament passages indicates that it was already common for God to use this same type of language when announcing impending judgments upon various nations. Consider these examples:</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">[1] Regarding Babylon: “<strong><em>For the stars of the heavens and their constellations will not give their light; the sun will be dark at its rising, and the moon will not shed its light</em></strong>” (Isaiah 13:10). Babylon was to fall at the hands of the Medes (<span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah%2013:17&amp;version=NIV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">verse 17</span></a></span>), and we know that this prophecy was fulfilled in 539 BC (see Daniel 5).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">[2] Regarding Edom: “<strong><em>All the host of heaven shall rot away</em></strong><em>, and the skies roll up like a scroll. <strong>All their host shall fall</strong>, as leaves fall from the vine, like leaves falling from the fig tree…her land shall become burning pitch. Night and day it shall not be quenched; its smoke shall go up forever</em>…” (Isaiah 34:4, 9-10). The capital of Edom was Petra. Assyria (under Sennacherib), Babylon (Jeremiah 27:3-6), and the Nabataeans attacked and plundered this region between the 6<sup>th</sup> and 4<sup>th</sup> centuries BC, as did Israel during the Maccabean period (in fulfillment of Ezekiel 25:14). It was made desolate as far as Teman (modern day Maan), as predicted in Ezekiel 25:13. Petra was conquered by Muslim nations, and then lost for more than 1000 years until it was rediscovered in 1812 (see Jeremiah 49:14-17). See <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.clarifyingchristianity.com/fulfill.shtml"><span style="color:#0000ff;">this article</span></a></span> for even more information.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">[3] Regarding Egypt: “<em>Behold, the Lord is riding on a swift cloud and comes to Egypt; and the idols of Egypt will tremble at His presence, and the heart of the Egyptians will melt within them</em>… <em>When I blot you out, <strong>I will cover the heavens and make their stars dark; I will cover the sun with a cloud, and the moon shall not give its light. All the bright lights of heaven will I make dark over you, and put darkness on your land</strong>, declares the Lord God</em>” (Isaiah 19:1; Ezekiel 32:7-8). Isaiah 20 makes it clear that Egypt’s defeat was to come at the hand of the Assyrians. Sargon, the king of Assyria, was even mentioned by name for his role in sending his chief commander (Tarton) to capture Ashdod (Isaiah 20:1). This took place in 711 BC. Assyria’s invasion of Egypt was also historically fulfilled during Sargon’s reign (722-705 BC) and, as prophesied, Cush (modern-day Ethiopia) was of no help to Egypt.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">When judgment came to Babylon, Edom, and Egypt, there were no literal cosmic catastrophes affecting the entire planet, and the literal sun, moon, and stars continued to shine. This was symbolic, metaphorical language used commonly in the Old Testament, and now appearing in the New Testament as well. The OT even includes instances where God used this same language to speak of “putting out the lights,” so to speak, of Israel (e.g. Jeremiah 4:14, 28; Jeremiah 13:16; Joel 2:10, 31; Amos 8:9). In the case of Joel’s prophecy, this was to happen in Israel’s last days, which Peter acknowledged as having come to his own generation (Acts 2:16-21).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Furthermore, it’s quite possible that Jesus’ reference to the sun, moon, and stars would have reminded His Jewish listeners of Joseph’s dream in which “<em>the sun, the moon, and eleven stars</em>” bowed down to him (Genesis 37:9). Thus, in addition to speaking of the collapse of a political structure, the darkening of these heavenly bodies would have specifically pointed to the downfall of the nation of Israel.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Another vivid illustration of the Bible’s use of this type of language to denote political events can be found in Psalm 18, written by David “<em>on the day when the Lord rescued him from the hand of all his enemies, and from the hand of Saul</em>.” David writes of being entangled by “<em>the cords of Sheol</em>” (verse 5); the earth reeling and rocking and the mountains trembling (verse 7); devouring fire coming from God’s mouth (verse 8); God bowing the heavens, thick darkness, God riding on a cherub <span style="text-decoration:underline;">and coming to him</span> (verses 9-10); hailstones and coals of fire coming to the earth through the clouds (verses 12-13); God sending arrows and lightning (verse 14); and the sea being divided and “<em>the foundations of the world</em>” being laid bare (verse 15). There is no record, Biblical or otherwise, of any such events literally taking place during David’s lifetime. Again, this is apocalyptic and metaphorical language, common throughout the Bible.</p>
<h2 style="text-align:center;"><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><strong>Matt. 24:30/Mark 13:26/Luke 21:27 (Jesus coming on the clouds of heaven)</strong></span><strong></strong></h2>
<p style="text-align:justify;">All three gospel accounts then speak of the Son of Man coming with power and great glory. Matthew says He would come “<em>on the clouds of heaven</em>,” Mark says “<em>in clouds</em>,” and Luke says “<em>in a cloud</em>.” His coming was to be visible. Matthew alone precedes His description of Christ’s coming by saying that a sign would appear in heaven, and he alone remarks that the tribes of the earth would mourn when they saw His coming. Does that mean He was to physically appear? We will take up this question shortly. First, let us consider again the timing of His promised coming.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">As we saw in part 1 of this series, prior to the Olivet Discourse Jesus had already told His disciples that His coming would take place [1] before they would be able to go through all the towns of Israel (Matthew 10:23) and [2] while some of them were still alive (Matthew 16:27-28). Furthermore, He said He would come [a] in His kingdom [b] with His angels [c] in the glory of His Father and [d] to repay each person for what they had done, i.e. in judgment. None of His disciples lived beyond the first century AD. Therefore, if He was telling the truth, His promised coming already took place. This is confirmed yet again at the end of the Olivet Discourse, as we will see later in this post.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The imminence of His coming, and of the end of the age, in the first century can be seen repeatedly elsewhere in the New Testament. Consider these examples by Paul, the author of Hebrews, James, Peter, and John:</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;"><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Paul:</span> “Besides this you know the time, that the hour has come for you to wake from sleep. For salvation is nearer to us now than when we first believed. The night is far gone; <strong>the day is at hand</strong>. So then let us cast off the works of darkness and put on the armor of light” (Romans 13:11-12). “This is what I mean, brothers: <strong>the appointed time has grown very short</strong>. From now on, let those who have wives live as though they had none…and those who buy as though they had no goods, and those who deal with the world as though they had no dealings with it. For <strong>the present form of this world is passing away</strong>” (I Corinthians 7:29-31). “Now these things happened to them as an example, but they were written down for our instruction, on whom <strong>the end of the ages has come</strong>” (I Cor. 10:11). “The Lord is at hand” (Philippians 4:5).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;"><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Hebrews (author unknown):</span> “…encouraging one another, and all the more <strong>as you see the Day drawing near</strong>” (Hebrews 10:25). “Yet <strong>a little while</strong>, and the coming One will come and <strong>will not delay</strong>…” (Heb. 10:37).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;"><span style="text-decoration:underline;">James:</span> “Come now, you rich, weep and howl for the miseries that are coming upon you… You have laid up treasure <strong>in the last days</strong>” (James 5:1-3). “Establish your hearts, for <strong>the coming of the Lord is at hand</strong>… behold, <strong>the Judge is standing at the door</strong>” (James 5:8-9).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;"><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Peter:</span> “The end of all things <strong>is at hand</strong>” (I Peter 4:7).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;"><span style="text-decoration:underline;">John:</span> “Children, <strong>it is the last hour</strong>, and as you have heard that antichrist is coming, so now many antichrists have come. Therefore we know that <strong>it is the last hour</strong>” (I John 2:18).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">So, with the timing of Christ’s coming established, what was to be the nature of it? We already saw that the darkening of the sun, moon, and stars was metaphorical language used to describe past judgments in history. What about His promise to come on clouds of glory? Surely this indicates a physical appearing, right? Although this idea is most popular today, we did already see two clearly fulfilled passages where God came with clouds to bring judgment as He saw fit:</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">[1] “<em>He bowed the heavens <strong>and came down</strong>; thick darkness was under His feet. He rode on a cherub and flew; <strong>He came swiftly</strong> on the wings of the wind. He made darkness His covering, <strong>His canopy around Him, thick clouds</strong> dark with water. Out of the brightness before Him hailstones and coals of fire broke through <strong>His clouds</strong></em>” (Psalm 18:9-12; fulfilled on the day when God rescued David from the hand of Saul and his other enemies).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">[2] “<em>Behold, <strong>the Lord is riding on a swift cloud and comes</strong> to Egypt</em>…” (Isaiah 19:1; fulfilled around 700 BC).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Kenneth Gentry, in his book “Before Jerusalem Fell: Dating the Book of Revelation” (1998), notes how often this type of language is used in Scripture without referring to any type of history-ending events (p. 123):</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">“The Old Testament frequently uses clouds as indicators of divine judgment. God is said to be surrounded with thick, foreboding clouds as emblems of His unapproachable holiness and righteousness (Gen. 15:17; Ex. 13:21-22; 14:19-20; 19:9, 16-19; Deut. 4:11; Job 22:14; Psa. 18:8ff; 97:2; 104:3; Isa. 19:1; Eze. 32:7-8). He is poetically portrayed as coming in clouds in historical judgments upon men (Psa. 18:7-15; 104:3; Isa. 19:1; Joel 2:1, 2; Nah. 1:2ff; Zeph. 1:14, 15). Thus, the New Testament speaks of Christ’s coming in clouds of judgment in history at Matthew 24:30 and 26:64…”</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">When Jesus said in the Olivet Discourse that He would come on the clouds of heaven, anyone in His audience who was familiar with the Old Testament knew that He was claiming to be one with His Father. Only God could ride on the clouds of heaven (e.g. Deuteronomy 33:26, Psalm 68:4, Psalm 104:3, Ezekiel 30:3, Nahum 1:3). That’s why the high priest accused Jesus of blasphemy when He made this same claim just before His crucifixion, and the crowd declared Him worthy of death (Matthew 26:63-66).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">As noted earlier, Jesus promised to come “<em>in the glory of His Father</em>” (Matt. 16:27). As <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdXc7Tc_VFA&amp;feature"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Don Preston well points out</span></a></span>, this can be understood to mean that just as the Father had come in the past, Jesus would also come in the same manner. Don gives as an example Isaiah 64:1-3, where the writer declares that God had “come down” numerous times in the past:</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">“<em>Oh, that You would rend the heavens and come down, that the mountains might quake at Your presence – as when fire kindles brushwood, and the fire causes water to boil – to make Your name known to Your adversaries, and that the nations might tremble at Your presence! When You did awesome things that we did not look for, <strong>You came down</strong>, the mountains quaked at Your presence</em>.”</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Consider also this prophecy by Micah, which was fulfilled in 586 BC when Jerusalem fell to the Babylonian armies:</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">‘<em>For behold, <strong>the LORD comes forth from His place, and will come down</strong>, and tread upon the high places of the earth. And the mountains shall be melted under Him, and the valleys shall be cleft, as wax before the fire, and as the waters that are poured down a steep place. For the transgression of Jacob is all this, and for the sins of the house of Israel …  What are the high places of Judah? Are they not Jerusalem</em>?’ (Micah 1:3-5).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Just as the Father’s comings in times past had not been bodily or physical in nature, there is also no promise here in the Olivet Discourse that Christ’s coming would be of this nature. Matthew, Mark, and Luke all used the same apocalyptic language that is typical in the Old Testament to speak of the final judgment which was about to come once again upon Jerusalem. Secular and church history tells us that it did come, from 67-70 AD. It was through this judgment, both predicted and fulfilled by Jesus, that “<em>the tribes of the earth</em>” saw Him coming with clouds.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">This prophecy in the Olivet Discourse is parallel to John’s words in Revelation 1:7, which many scholars believe is the theme verse of the book of Revelation: “<em>Behold, He is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see Him, even those who pierced Him, and <strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">all tribes of the earth</span></strong> will wail on account of Him. Even so. Amen</em>.” Indeed, Matthew 24:30 also says that “<strong><em><span style="text-decoration:underline;">all the tribes of the earth</span> </em></strong><em>will mourn</em>” when they see Jesus coming on the clouds of heaven. Kenneth Gentry comments, “His Cloud-Coming is a Judgment-Coming that brings mourning. But upon whom? And when? And how? Fortunately…time cues exist within the theme text, and can be found in the other New Testament allusions to this same passage.”</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Gentry then makes the case that, although the Romans had a part in crucifying and piercing Jesus (and in the broadest sense, all of mankind did), the responsibility for these deeds belonged to the Jews of that generation who instigated and demanded that they be done (See Acts 2:22-23, 36; 3:13-15a; Acts 5:30; 7:52; I Thessalonians 2:14-15). He quotes from Adam Clarke who, in his 1823 commentary on Revelation 1:7, remarked, “By this the <em>Jewish people</em> are most evidently intended, and therefore the whole verse may be understood as predicting the destruction of the Jews; and is a presumptive proof that the Apocalypse [the book of Revelation] was written <em>before</em> the final overthrow of the Jewish state [in 70 AD].”</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Seeing that both Matthew 24:30 and Revelation 1:7 use the phrase “all tribes of the earth” to indicate who would wail upon seeing Christ coming with the clouds, Gentry notes that the Greek word for “tribe” refers to the Jewish tribes when used elsewhere in Scripture, almost without exception. With his conclusion, the <em>Theological Dictionary of the New Testament</em> and the <em>International Standard Bible Encyclopedia</em> agrees (see also Revelation 5:5, 7:4, and 21:12). The strongest indication of this association, though, can be seen in the fact that Revelation 1:7 is clearly a reference to Zechariah 12:10, a passage leaving no doubt that Israel and Jerusalem are in view: “<em>And I will pour out <strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem</span></strong> a spirit of grace and pleas for mercy, so that, when <strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">they</span></strong> look on Me, on Him whom <strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">they</span></strong> have pierced, <strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">they</span></strong> shall mourn for Him, as one mourns for an only child, and weep bitterly over Him, as one weeps over a firstborn</em>.”</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Furthermore, the phrase “the earth” used in both Matthew 24:30 and Revelation 1:7, can just as well be translated “the land,” i.e. the Promised Land of Israel. The same expression is used in Luke 21:23, an obvious reference to Jerusalem and Israel. Aside from the ESV, <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://bible.cc/luke/21-23.htm"><span style="color:#0000ff;">most Bible translations</span></a></span> choose to speak of “the land” rather than “the earth” in Luke’s gospel, but in Matthew’s gospel they tend to speak of “the earth,” which many today take to be an indication of a world-wide, history-ending event. From the context of Zechariah 12:10, however, we can know that this is not the case.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Another consideration regarding the language of Matthew 24:30 (and the parallel passages in Mark, Luke, and Revelation 1:7) is that it is reminiscent of Daniel 7:13-14: “<em>I saw in the night visions, and behold, with the clouds of heaven there came one like a Son of Man, <strong>and He came <span style="text-decoration:underline;">to</span> the Ancient of Days</strong> and was presented before Him. And to Him was given dominion and glory and a kingdom, that all peoples, nations, and languages should serve Him</em>.” We can see that the vision shown to Daniel was actually of Christ <em><span style="text-decoration:underline;">ascending</span></em> to the Father, not <em><span style="text-decoration:underline;">descending</span></em> to the earth.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Jesus’ ascension took place about 40 years prior to 70 AD, of course. Yet the picture of His ascension is tied to the judgment which came nearly a generation later. This judgment, then, would verify or point to the reality of Christ’s ascension with power and great glory. Kevin Daly of Messianic Good News (South Africa) <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="https://www.givengain.com/cgi-bin/giga.cgi?cmd=cause_dir_news_item&amp;cause_id=1507&amp;news_id=68301&amp;cat_id=529"><span style="color:#0000ff;">writes regarding these things</span></a></span>:</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;"><strong>The appearance of a sign</strong> (verse 30) would not be necessary if the Son of Man would come visibly at this time. The sign is necessary because his coming in the clouds of heaven, in power and vindication glory, alludes once more to Daniel, who spoke of<em> ‘one like the son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven,’</em> to receive from the Ancient of Days<em> ‘authority, glory and sovereign power’ </em>so that<em> ‘all peoples, nations and men of every language’</em> might worship him. The fall of Jerusalem was itself the sign (evidence) that <strong>Jesus was enthroned at the right hand of the Father in heaven, bringing judgment on the city</strong>.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Adam Clarke [1762-1832] likewise comments on verse 30: “The plain meaning of this is, that the destruction of Jerusalem will be such a remarkable instance of Divine vengeance, such a signal manifestation of Christ’s power and glory, that all the Jewish tribes shall mourn, and many will, in consequence of this manifestation of God, be led to acknowledge Christ and his religion.”</p>
<h2 style="text-align:center;"><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><strong>Matt. 24:31/Mark 13:27/Luke 21:28 (Gathering of the elect/redemption near)</strong></span></h2>
<p style="text-align:justify;">This portion of the Olivet Discourse is, to me, perhaps the most difficult to interpret. Here is how the next verse reads in each of the three accounts:</p>
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<td valign="top" width="245">“And He will send out His angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.”</td>
<td valign="top" width="245">“And then He will send out His angels and gather His elect from the four winds, from the ends of the earth to the ends of heaven.”</td>
<td valign="top" width="245">“Now when these things begin to take place, straighten up and raise your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.”</td>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">Luke’s choice of language here is noticeably different from what we see in the accounts of Matthew and Mark, but I believe we’re correct in seeing his words as being parallel. In all three accounts, these statements are nestled between Jesus’ declaration that He would come in clouds with power and great glory, and His analogy of the fig tree (the next portion we will examine).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">In this portion we can observe the following: [1] God’s elect are gathered. [2] They are gathered by His angels. [3] The gathering is global. [4] Luke equates this gathering with redemption.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">We know from the Parable of the Weeds (Matthew 13:24-30, 36-43) that God’s angels would be used at the end of the age to first “<em>gather out of His kingdom all causes of sin and all law-breakers</em>” (13:33, 41-42) and then gather the righteous in His kingdom that they might shine like the sun (13:30, 43; cf. Daniel 12:3). In the Olivet Discourse Jesus is telling the disciples what would happen at the end of their own age (Matt. 24:3). We also know from Matthew 16:27-28 that Jesus’ coming within the lifetime of some of His disciples was to be “<em>with His angels</em>.” So the parallels are here: [1] angels [2] a gathering [3] the end of the age [4] Christ’s coming.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">With these things in mind, I’m aware of three somewhat different interpretations for this gathering of the elect from the four winds of the earth. I’m not so sure that one of these options is <em>the</em> correct interpretation, and the other two are wrong. All three explanations may very well be viable. They are as follows:</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">[A] This refers to a great spiritual harvest of people from all ethnic backgrounds coming to Christ across the globe from that time forward.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">Kevin Daly, quoted above, gives this opinion: “The trumpet call that called back the exiles in Isaiah 27:13 would now call in the elect from the four corners of the earth. <strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">This harvest of souls to whom the gospel was sown, from far and wide for Messiah’s glory</span></strong>, is contrasted with the tribes of the land (Greek – της γης), who would mourn for the one they had pierced, in accordance with Zechariah 12:10.” The Judaizing movement was the greatest hindrance to the spread of the gospel among the Gentiles, as we can see in these words from Paul:</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">“<em>For you suffered the same things from your own countrymen as [the Judean believers] did from the Jews, who killed both the Lord Jesus and the prophets, and drove us out, and displease God <strong>and oppose all mankind by hindering us from speaking to the Gentiles that they might be saved</strong>… But God’s wrath has come upon them at last</em>!” (I Thessalonians 2:14-16)</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">The destruction and removal of the temple, the very life and center of Judaism, would be one of the catalysts for the greater spread of the gospel to all peoples.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"> [B] This refers to the translation of God’s people out of the Old Covenant (age) into the New Covenant/eternal kingdom age.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">This view is expressed by Duncan McKenzie, for example, in his book “The Antichrist and the Second Coming: A Preterist Examination – Volume 1” (pp. 227-228). After quoting Matthew 24:30-34, he writes:</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">“This ingathering of God’s people was not a physical rapture to heaven <strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">but a spiritual gathering of believers into the fullness of the new covenant.</span></strong> Jesus ‘<em>would gather together in one the children of God who were scattered abroad</em>’ (John 11:49-52; cf. Matt 3:5-12). This gathering happened at the fulfillment of the Feast of Ingathering in AD 70 (cf. Rev. 14:14-20). According to the prophecy of Daniel this blessed time was to be fulfilled forty-five days (Dan. 12:12) after the shattering of the power of Daniel’s people (Dan. 12:7). This was the end of the great tribulation and the beginning of the resurrection (Dan. 12:1-3; cf. Rev. 20:4-6). <strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">This was the time when God’s people fully possessed the kingdom (Dan. 7:17-27; cf. Rev. 11:15-18)</span></strong>…</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">Jesus had said that much of physical Israel would be cast out at this time of the messianic banquet: ‘<em>And I say to you that many will come from east and west, and sit down with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven. But the sons of the kingdom will be cast out</em>…’ (Matt. 8:11-12; cf. Matt. 3:4-12; 22:1-10; Gal. 4:21-31). Those believers who die in the post-AD 70 kingdom age (which includes believers today) are those of whom it is written, “‘<em>Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on.’ ‘Yes,’ says the Spirit, ‘that they may rest from their labors, and their works follow them</em>’” (Rev. 14:13). Notice that the next two verses after this declaration of blessedness show the ingathering of the harvest (symbolizing Jesus’ gathering together his own at his Second Coming; Rev. 14:14-16).” [See <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://thereignofchrist.com/full-preterism-and-the-tiny-harvest/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">the third comment under this post</span></a></span> for this excerpt in its greater context.]</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">[C] This refers to the general resurrection of Old Testament saints and those who had died in Christ prior to 70 AD (followed by the individual and immediate resurrection of all who would die in Christ from that time forward).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">This view was expressed, for example, by Daniel Lamont, D.D., Professor Emeritus of Practical Theology at the University of Edinburgh. Writing in 1945, and holding to the viewpoint that the Olivet Discourse was fulfilled in the 1<sup>st</sup> century, <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://thereignofchrist.com/thank-you-todd-dennis/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">he expressed these thoughts on Matthew 24:31</span></a></span> –</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">“[This was]<strong> </strong>the inauguration of the new age in which the sting of death is removed for the people of God and <span style="text-decoration:underline;">they pass at once when they die into the nearer Presence (Parousia) of their Lord</span>… ‘The dead in Christ shall rise first,’ (1 Thess. 4:16) said Paul, writing before, but in expectation of, our Lord’s Parousia.  Here in these verses (1 Thess. 4:13-18) he uses apocalyptic language, but there is good reason to believe that he means exactly the same as John in his Gospel (14:1-3).  <span style="text-decoration:underline;">Christ will come for His own people as they pass one by one from the earthly scene</span>, but this He cannot do till the age of His Parousia begins.  The fullness of His Presence will be available for His people from that time onwards.”</p>
<h2 style="text-align:center;"><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><strong>Matt. 24:32-33/Mark 13:28-29/Luke 21:29-31 (Leaves sprouting on the fig tree)</strong></span></h2>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Jesus then uses the fig tree to illustrate how His listeners would know that His coming was near. A tender branch and the sprouting of leaves on a fig tree mean that summer is near. In the same way, when all the preceding signs would take place, they could know for certain that He was near. Those signs did take place within that same generation, as we saw in <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://kloposmasm.wordpress.com/2011/05/04/the-olivet-discourse-this-generation-or-that-generation-part-2-of-4/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Part 2</span></a></span> and <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://kloposmasm.wordpress.com/2011/05/09/the-olivet-discourse-this-generation-or-that-generation-part-3-of-4/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Part 3</span></a></span>. Luke says, “<em>So also, when you see these things taking place, you know that <span style="text-decoration:underline;">the kingdom of God is near</span></em>.” Matthew and Mark use the expression, “<em>you know</em> <em>that <span style="text-decoration:underline;">He is near, at the very gates</span></em>,” once again showing that His coming and the arrival of His kingdom were to be synonymous. Do we see anything like this elsewhere in the New Testament? Yes! One of the clearest and most emphatic statements of this sort is made by James, the brother of Jesus: “<em>Establish your hearts, for <strong>the coming of the Lord is at hand</strong>… behold, <strong>the Judge is standing <span style="text-decoration:underline;">at the door</span></strong></em>” (James 5:8-9).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">As is well known, many futurists (especially Dispensationalists) are fond of saying that the fig tree represents Israel. Therefore, they continue, when Israel became a nation in 1948, God’s prophetic time clock to the end (of world history) began to tick again, and the terminal generation has been revealed. There are numerous problems with this interpretation, among which are these:</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">[1] When Paul speaks of Israel in Romans (11:17, 24), he uses the illustration of an olive tree, not a fig tree.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">[2] In Luke’s account, Jesus speaks of not only the fig tree, but “<em>all the trees</em>.”</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">[3] Jesus does speak of a fig tree elsewhere, but observe closely what He says about it: “In the morning, as He was returning to the city, He became hungry. And seeing a fig tree by the wayside, He went to it and found nothing on it but leaves. And He said to it, ‘<span style="text-decoration:underline;">May no fruit ever come from you again</span>!’” (Matthew 21:18-19). If you agree with the Dispensationalist viewpoint regarding the fig tree in the Olivet Discourse, are you really sure you want the fig tree to represent Israel?</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">[4] This interpretation has led many to falsely name dates, change their own dates, and falsely predict the imminence of “end-times” events. As <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://americanvision.org/1759/brief-response-critic-of-jesus-coming-soon/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Gary DeMar writes</span></a></span>,</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">[In] LaHaye’s 1991 revised edition of <em>The Beginning of the End</em> (1972), he wrote: “Carefully putting all this together, we now recognize this strategic generation. <em>It is the generation that ‘sees’ the events of 1948</em>…”</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">The 1948–1988 connection was all the rage in the early 1970s, especially with the publication of Hal Lindsey’s <em>Late Great Planet Earth</em> (1970): “The most important sign in Matthew has to be the restoration of the Jews to the land in the rebirth of Israel. Even the figure of speech ‘fig tree’ has been a historic symbol [note that Lindsey does not offer any biblical support] of national Israel. When the Jewish people, after nearly 2,000 years of exile, under relentless persecution, became a nation again on 14 May 1948 the ‘fig tree’ put forth its first leaves. Jesus said that this would indicate that He was ‘at the door,’ ready to return. Then He said, ‘Truly I say to you, <em>this generation</em> will not pass away until all these things take place’ (Matthew 24:34, NASB). What generation? Obviously, in context, the generation that would see the signs—chief among them the rebirth of Israel. A generation in the Bible is something like forty years…”</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">Chuck Smith, pastor of Calvary Chapel and founder of the worldwide Calvary Chapel system of churches, went a step further than Lindsey: “That generation that was living in May 1948 shall not pass away until the second coming of Jesus Christ takes place and the kingdom of God established upon the earth. How long is a generation? Forty years on average in the Bible. . . . Where does that put us? It puts us right out at the end. We’re coming down to the wire.”[8] He wrote this in 1976.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">[5] For a lengthier explanation of why neither the Olivet Discourse, nor Isaiah 66:5-10, speaks of the establishment of Israel in 1948 (and how Isaiah 54:1 and Galatians 4:21-31 deal a death blow to this idea), <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://kloposmasm.wordpress.com/2010/07/16/a-review-of-jan-markells-review-of-with-god-on-our-side/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">see the first comment under this post here</span></a></span>.</p>
<h2 style="text-align:center;"><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><strong>Matt. 24:34/Mark 13:30/Luke 21:32 (This generation will not pass away)</strong></span></h2>
<p style="text-align:justify;">We now come to a very pivotal verse, with which we will conclude this study. In this verse Jesus once again sets a tight parameter and establishes the timeline within which everything He has said up to this point much take place: <strong>“<em>Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place</em>.”</strong> As the title of this series suggests, one’s interpretation of the Olivet Discourse often rises and falls on an understanding of Jesus’ phrase, “<em>this generation</em>.”</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">We must ask ourselves how Jesus’ original audience would have understood these words. In <strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">their</span></strong> minds, did He really mean “this” (i.e. their) generation, or did He mean “that” (i.e. a future) generation? Not only have we seen that every one of His predictions did take place in the first century, but we will also do well to remember that this entire discourse was in answer to His disciples’ question, “<em>When will these things</em> [the destruction of the temple; <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://kloposmasm.wordpress.com/2011/04/30/the-olivet-discourse-this-generation-or-that-generation-part-1-of-4/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">see Matt. 24:1-2, Mark 13:1-2, Luke 21:5-6</span></a></span>] <em>be, and what will be the sign when these things are about to take place</em>?” History tells us that the temple fell, as Jesus predicted, in 70 AD. Accordingly, everything Jesus predicted here was to take place by that time.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Although the plain reading of this statement would then indicate that Jesus was speaking of <span style="text-decoration:underline;">His own</span> generation, there are many who believe He was speaking of <span style="text-decoration:underline;">a future</span> generation far beyond His own (i.e. <span style="text-decoration:underline;">our own</span> generation). This usually works itself out in a couple of different ways:</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">[1] There are those who agree that the generation which <span style="text-decoration:underline;">begins</span> to see these things take place is the one which would see them all take place, but they are adamant that <span style="text-decoration:underline;">only in our own day</span> have we begun to see these signs. This crowd holds to a more literal definition of generation, that is, 40 years or sometimes 70 years.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">[2] Others hold to a theory of dual fulfillment. That is, they will admit that some or most of these things took place in the first century AD (especially Luke 21:20-24a), but they say they must take place again, and/or they will point to a perceived delay in Christ’s predicted coming to show that <span style="text-decoration:underline;">all</span> has not yet taken place. This being the case, they must then stretch the definition of “generation” to somehow mean a period of around 2000 years, since some of these signs already took place and others allegedly have yet to take place.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The reader may be surprised to know that the famous author, C.S. Lewis, held to a bizarre combination of some of these views, leading him to teach that Jesus <span style="text-decoration:underline;">meant</span> for His own first century audience to believe that all these things would take place in their own time, <span style="text-decoration:underline;">but that He both deceived them and didn’t know what He was talking about</span>:</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">&#8220;The apocalyptic beliefs of the first Christians have been proved to be false. It is clear from the New Testament that they all expected the Second Coming in their own lifetime. And, worse still, they had a reason, and one which you will find very embarrassing. Their Master had told them so. He shared, and indeed created, their delusion. He said in so many words, &#8216;this generation shall not pass till all these things be done.&#8217; And he was wrong. He clearly knew no more about the end of the world than anyone else. This is certainly the most embarrassing verse in the Bible.&#8221; (Essay: &#8220;The World&#8217;s Last Night&#8221; (1960), found in <em>The Essential C.S. Lewis</em>, p. 385.)</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Clearly, C.S. Lewis, while understanding that Jesus spoke of His own generation, held the view that Jesus’ Second Coming was to be physical and bodily in nature, and because history doesn’t record any such coming, he was willing to impugn Jesus’ credibility. This is dangerous, of course, because if Jesus was wrong and lied about this, as Lewis said, what else might He have been wrong about? Salvation and eternal life through His work on the cross? Thank God we can know that Jesus wasn&#8217;t wrong about any of the above.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Furthermore, why would Jesus have meant anything different by the phrase “this generation” here than He did in Matthew 11:16; 12:41, 42, 45; 17:17; 23:26; Mark 8:12; Luke 7:31; 11:29-32; 17:25 (all clearly referring to His immediate audience). We also get a very good idea of how Matthew defined “generation” when we consider his account of the genealogy from Abraham to Jesus: “<em>So all the </em><em>generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations, from David until the captivity in Babylon are fourteen generations, and from the captivity in Babylon until the Christ are fourteen generations</em>” (Matthew 1:17). Matthew tells us that 14 generations passed from the Babylonian captivity until Christ. Babylon captured Israel in 586 BC, meaning that each generation was about 42 years (586/14 = 41.86).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Some contend that “generation” actually means “race.” However, as my friend, Jerry Bowers, points out, one would be hard-pressed to say that there were 42 races of people from Abraham to Christ. Saying that Jesus meant that “<em>this</em> [race] <em>will not pass away until all these things take place</em>” would imply that the Jewish race would cease to exist once the temple fell, famine and wars came, etc. This is an idea Dispensationalists would probably not want to own.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The idea that “this generation” meant a future generation beyond Jesus’ own time is not common in church history. The following is just a small sample of quotes from the 2<sup>nd</sup> century onward tying this expression to Jesus’ own day:</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;"><strong>Clement (150-220 AD)</strong>: “And in like manner He spoke in plain words the things that were straightway to happen, which we can now see with our eyes, <em>in order that the accomplishment might be among those to whom the word was spoken</em>.”</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;"><strong>Eusebius (263-339 AD)</strong>: “And when those that believed in Christ had come thither [out] from Jerusalem [in obedience to Matthew 24:15-16], then, as if the royal city of the Jews and the whole land of Judea were entirely destitute of holy men, the judgment of God at length overtook those who had committed such outrages against Christ and his apostles, and totally destroyed <strong>that generation</strong> of impious men (Proof of the Gospel, Book III, Ch. 5)… [When] the lamentation and wailing that was predicted for the Jews, and the burning of the Temple and its utter desolation, can also be seen even now to have occurred according to the prediction, surely we must also agree that the King who was prophesied, the Christ of God, has come, since the signs of His coming have been shewn in each instance I have treated to have been clearly fulfilled” (Proof of the Gospel, Book VIII).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;"><strong>John Calvin (1509-1564)</strong>: “This prophecy does not relate to evils that are distant, and which posterity will see after the lapse of many centuries, but which are now hanging over you, and ready to fall in one mass, <em>so that there is no part of it which the present generation </em>[in Jesus’ time]<em> will not experience</em>.”</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;"><strong>John Wesley (1754)</strong>: “The expression implies that great part of that generation would be passed away, but not the whole. Just so it was; for the city and temple were destroyed thirty-nine or forty years after.”</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;"><strong>Adam Clarke (1837):</strong> &#8220;It is literally true in reference to the destruction of Jerusalem. John probably lived to see these things come to pass; compare Matthew 16:28, with John 21:22; and there were some rabbins alive at the time when Christ spoke these words who lived till the city was destroyed, viz. Rabban Simeon, who perished with the city; R. Jochanan ben Zaccai, who outlived it; R. Zadoch, R. Ismael, and others.&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;"><strong>Charles Spurgeon (1868)</strong>: “The King left his followers in no doubt as to when these things should happen: ‘<em>Verily I say unto you, this generation shall not pass till all these things be fulfilled</em>.’ It was just about the ordinary limit of a generation when the Roman armies compassed Jerusalem, whose measure of iniquity was then full, and overflowed in misery, agony, distress, and bloodshed such as the world never saw before or since. Jesus was a true Prophet; everything that he foretold was literally fulfilled.”</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">Kevin Daly, of Messianic Good News (South Africa), <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="https://www.givengain.com/cgi-bin/giga.cgi?cmd=cause_dir_news_item&amp;cause_id=1507&amp;news_id=68301&amp;cat_id=529"><span style="color:#0000ff;">states</span></a></span>, “In much the same way as a person might unwittingly wait for a bus that has already departed, our ignorance of the history of the interval between Jesus’ ascension and the Roman siege of AD70 has contributed much to our expectation that events mentioned in Matthew 24 must still come to pass.”</p>
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		<title>The Olivet Discourse: &#8220;This&#8221; Generation Or &#8220;That&#8221; Generation (Part 3 of 4)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the first post (Part 1) of this series, we examined the first few verses of Jesus’ famous Olivet Discourse, recorded in Matthew 24:1-3, Mark 13:1-4, and Luke 21:5-7. We saw the disciples admiring the temple, Jesus telling them it would soon be destroyed, and the disciples asking Him when that would take place. In Matthew’s account [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=kloposmasm.com&amp;blog=8756029&amp;post=1636&amp;subd=kloposmasm&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align:justify;">In <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://kloposmasm.wordpress.com/2011/04/30/the-olivet-discourse-this-generation-or-that-generation-part-1-of-4/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">the first post (Part 1)</span></a></span> of this series, we examined the first few verses of Jesus’ famous <em>Olivet Discourse</em>, recorded in Matthew 24:1-3, Mark 13:1-4, and Luke 21:5-7. We saw the disciples admiring the temple, Jesus telling them it would soon be destroyed, and the disciples asking Him when that would take place. In Matthew’s account alone they asked Him about His coming and the end of the age that they were living in. <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://kloposmasm.wordpress.com/2011/05/04/the-olivet-discourse-this-generation-or-that-generation-part-2-of-4/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">In the second post</span></a></span>, we examined a roughly 10-verse segment in each account where Jesus described some of the signs which would take place before the temple’s destruction. We saw how those signs were fulfilled between the time of His ascension around 30 AD and the temple’s overthrow in 70 AD, about 40 years later.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">In this post we will look at how Jesus warned His followers living in Judea to flee to the mountains when they saw “<em>the abomination that causes desolation</em>” (Matthew 24:15/Mark 13:14), that is, “<em>Jerusalem being surrounded by armies</em>” (Luke 21:20). We will see some remarkable accounts of how the believers obeyed and did this very thing about 36 years later. We will also consider what Jesus said about a time of great tribulation that was to come.</p>
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<td valign="top" width="245"><sup>15</sup> <span style="color:#ff0000;">“<strong>So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand</strong></span>— <sup>16</sup> <span style="text-decoration:underline;">then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.</span> <sup>17</sup> Let no one on the housetop go down to take anything out of the house. <sup>18</sup> Let no one in the field go back to get their cloak. <sup>19</sup> How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! <sup>20</sup> Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath. <sup>21</sup> <span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again. </strong></span><sup>22</sup> “If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. <sup>23</sup> At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. <sup>24</sup> For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. <sup>25</sup>See, I have told you ahead of time.<sup>26</sup> “So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. <sup>27</sup> For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. <sup>28</sup> Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.</td>
<td valign="top" width="245"><sup>14</sup> <span style="color:#ff0000;">“<strong>When you see ‘the abomination that causes desolation’ standing where it does not belong—let the reader understand</strong></span>—<span style="text-decoration:underline;">then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.</span> <sup>15</sup> Let no one on the housetop go down or enter the house to take anything out. <sup>16</sup> Let no one in the field go back to get their cloak. <sup>17</sup> How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! <sup>18</sup> Pray that this will not take place in winter, <sup>19</sup> because <span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>those will be days of distress unequaled from the beginning, when God created the world, until now—and never to be equaled again. </strong></span><sup>20</sup> “If the Lord had not cut short those days, no one would survive. But for the sake of the elect, whom he has chosen, he has shortened them. <sup>21</sup> At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah!’ or, ‘Look, there he is!’ do not believe it. <sup>22</sup> For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. <sup>23</sup> So be on your guard; I have told you everything ahead of time.</td>
<td valign="top" width="245"><sup>20</sup> <span style="color:#ff0000;">“<strong>When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you will know that its desolation is near.</strong></span> <sup>21</sup> <span style="text-decoration:underline;">Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains</span>, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country not enter the city. <sup>22</sup> For this is the time of punishment <strong><span style="color:#000000;">in fulfillment of all that has been written.</span></strong> <sup>23</sup> How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! <span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>There will be great distress in the land and wrath against this people.</strong></span> <sup>24</sup> They will fall by the sword and will be taken as prisoners to all the nations. <strong><span style="color:#000000;">Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.</span></strong></td>
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<h2 style="text-align:center;"><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">THE ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION</span></strong></h2>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Matt. 24:15-20/Mark 13:14-18/Luke 21:20-21, 23a</span></strong> – Both Matthew and Mark speak of an event which Christ’s followers were to be on the lookout for, “<em>the abomination that causes desolation.</em>” Both writers appeal to the reader “<em>to understand</em>,” and Matthew adds that this was spoken of by Daniel (<span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Daniel%209:26-27&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">9:26-27</span></a></span>, <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Daniel%2011:31&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">11:31</span></a></span>, <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Daniel%2012:11&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">12:11</span></a></span>).  Luke also speaks of an event which would lead to desolation, which he describes as “<em>Jerusalem being surrounded by armies</em>.” Looking at all three accounts together, we can see that these (apparently) two different signs were actually one and the same, for they were to bring about the same response: immediate flight. Luke, addressing a non-Jewish audience, makes plain what the “abomination of desolation” was to be:</p>
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<td valign="top" width="216"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong>“So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes <span style="text-decoration:underline;">desolation</span>’…”</strong></span></td>
<td valign="top" width="210"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong>“When you see ‘the abomination that causes <span style="text-decoration:underline;">desolation</span>’…”</strong></span><strong></strong></td>
<td valign="top" width="205"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>“When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies… <span style="text-decoration:underline;">desolation</span> is near.”</strong></span><strong></strong></td>
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<td valign="top" width="216"><strong>“then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.”</strong></td>
<td valign="top" width="210"><strong>“then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.”</strong></td>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">Perhaps overlooking this fact, it is often said by futurists that, at the time of Jerusalem’s destruction in 70 AD, nothing occurred which may have fulfilled Christ’s prophecy of a coming abomination of desolation. A number of early church writers, however, did teach that this prophecy was fulfilled at that time. These included Clement of Alexandria (150-215 AD), Eusebius (263-339) Athanasius (296-372), Augustine (379), Chrysostom (379), Jerome (347-420), and Remigius (437-533). Eusebius (263-339 AD) was a Roman scholar and historian, known as the “Father of Church History.” In his work entitled “Proof of the Gospel” (Book III, Chapter VII), written in 314 AD, he said the following:</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">It is fitting to add to these accounts the true prediction of our Saviour in which he foretold these very events. His words are as follows: “<em>Woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the Sabbath day; For there shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be</em>.” …<strong>These things <span style="text-decoration:underline;">took place</span> in this manner in the second year of the reign of Vespasian, in accordance with the prophecies of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, who by divine power saw them beforehand as if they were already present</strong>, and wept and mourned according to the statement of the holy evangelists…</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Moreover, the people of the church at Jerusalem, in accordance with a certain oracle that was vouchsafed by way of revelation to the approved men there, had been commanded to depart from the city before the war, and to inhabit a certain city of Peraea. They called it Pella. <strong>And when those who believed in Christ had removed from Jerusalem, as if holy men had utterly deserted both the royal metropolis of the Jews itself and the whole land of Judaea, the Justice of God then visited upon them all their acts of violence to Christ and his apostles</strong>, by destroying <strong>that generation</strong> of wicked persons root and branch from among men.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">…at last <strong>the abomination of desolation, proclaimed by the prophets, stood in the very temple of God</strong>, so celebrated of old, the temple which was now awaiting its total and final destruction by fire– all these things any one that wishes may find accurately described in the history written by Josephus.</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">Remigius (437-533 AD) tells us this:</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">[F]or on the approach of the Roman army, all the Christians in the province, warned, as ecclesiastical history tells us, miraculously from heaven, withdrew, and passing the Jordan, took refuge in the city of Pella; and under the protection of that King Agrippa, of whom we read in the Acts of the Apostles, they continued some time.</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">This is fascinating stuff! Athanasius (296-372 AD), the bishop of Alexandria, likewise wrote this:</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">&#8220;And when He Who spake unto Moses, the Word of the Father [i.e. Jesus], appeared in the end of the world [age], He also gave this commandment, saying…, ‘<em>When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place (whoso readeth, let him understand); then let them which be in Judea flee into the mountains</em>…’ [Matt. 24:15-16]. <strong>Knowing these things, the Saints regulated their conduct accordingly</strong>&#8221; (<em>Defence of His Flight</em>).</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">When Athanasius spoke of the believers in Jerusalem living “accordingly,” it’s likely that he meant they lived simply, in order to be prepared for that time when they would need to suddenly vacate. Indeed, we read in Acts that the believers there “<em>had all things in common</em>,” they “<em>were selling their possessions and belongings and distributing the proceeds to all, as any had need</em>” (<span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%202:44-45&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Acts 2:44-45</span></a></span>), and “<em>no one said that any of the things that belonged to him was his own</em>” (<span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%204:32&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Acts 4:32</span></a></span>). Of course, many of these believers were later scattered throughout Judea and Samaria when persecution suddenly arose after Stephen was martyred (<span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%208:1&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Acts 8:1</span></a></span>).</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://kloposmasm.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/abomination-of-desolation-1.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1637" title="Destruction of Jerusalem by Ercole de' Roberti" src="http://kloposmasm.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/abomination-of-desolation-1.jpg?w=400&#038;h=255" alt="" width="400" height="255" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b2/Ercole_de_Roberti_Destruction_of_Jerusalem_Fighting_Fleeing_Marching_Slaying_Burning_Chemical_reactions_b.jpg"><span style="color:#0000ff;">SOURCE</span></a></span></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">From Scripture it seems clear that “<em>the holy place</em>” mentioned by Jesus (Matt. 24:15) was not the temple, but Jerusalem, since the entire city was considered holy (<span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Nehemiah%2011:1&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Nehemiah 11:1</span></a></span>, <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Daniel%209:24&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Daniel 9:24</span></a></span>, <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%204:5&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Matthew 4:5</span></a></span>, <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2027:53&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Matthew 27:53</span></a></span>). In Daniel’s day the temple was holy, but Jesus had just pronounced it desolate (<span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2023:38&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Matthew 23:38</span></a></span>). This was the viewpoint of Chrysostom (379 AD), who wrote, “For this it seems to me that <strong>the abomination of desolation</strong> means the army by which the holy city of Jerusalem was made desolate” (recorded in <em>The Ante-Nicene Fathers</em>). Thomas Newton, in his dissertation titled “The Prophecy of Matthew 24” written in 1753, also took this position:</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;"><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Whatever difficulty there is in these words [in Matthew 24:15-16], it may be cleared up by the parallel place in St. Luke</span>, ‘And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. Then let them which are in Judea flee to the mountains,’-xxi – 20, 21. <span style="text-decoration:underline;">So that ‘the abomination of desolation’ is the Roman army, and ‘the abomination of desolation standing in the holy place’ is the Roman army besieging Jerusalem</span>. This, saith our Saviour, is ‘the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet,’ in the ninth and eleventh chapters; and so let every one who readeth those prophecies, understand them. <span style="text-decoration:underline;">The Roman army is called ‘the abomination,’ for its ensigns and images, which were so to the Jews.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">Other commentators roughly contemporary to Thomas Newton held to the same view, i.e. that these words of Jesus were fulfilled in 67-70 AD. These included John Wesley (1754), Adam Clarke (1837), C. H. (Charles) Spurgeon (1868), and Philip Schaff (1877). For example, Charles Spurgeon said (“Popular Exposition of Matthew”),</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">“This portion of our Savior’s words appears to relate solely to the destruction of Jerusalem. As soon as Christ’s disciples saw ‘the abomination of desolation’, that is, the Roman ensigns, with their idolatrous emblems, ‘stand in the holy place’, they knew that the time for them to escape had arrived, and they did ‘flee to the mountains.’ The Christians in Jerusalem and the surrounding towns and villages, ‘in Judea’, availed themselves of the first opportunity for eluding the Roman armies, and fled to the mountain city of Pella, in Perea, where they were preserved from the general destruction which overthrew the Jews.</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">The Romans came into Jerusalem bearing standards, emblems, and banners with images of their gods and proclamations of the deity of their emperor. B.H. Carroll (1915), in his well-known work, “An Introduction of the English Bible” (1915), related an interesting incident which took place during the reign of Tiberius (14-37 AD). This incident sheds light on what was constituted as such an abomination at this time:</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">Pilate, at that time Roman Procurator, sent from Caesarea, the seaport of that country on the Mediterranean Sea, a legion of Roman soldiers and had them secretly introduced into the city and sheltered in the tower of Antonio overlooking the Temple, and these soldiers brought with them their ensigns. The Roman sign was a straight staff, capped with a metallic eagle, and right under the eagle was a graven image of Caesar. Caesar claimed to be divine. Caesar exacted divine worship, and every evening when those standards were placed, the Roman legion got down and worshiped the image of Caesar thereof, and every morning at the roll call a part of the parade was for the whole legion to prostrate themselves before that graven image and worship it. The Jews were so horrified when they saw that image and the consequent worship, they went to Pilate, who was at that time living in Caesarea, and prostrated themselves before him and said, ‘Kill us, if you will, <span style="text-decoration:underline;">but take that abomination of desolation out of our Holy City and from the neighborhood of our holy temple</span>’ (pp. 263-264).</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">Jesus had told those living in Judea to head to the mountains, predicting such urgency that they weren’t even to grab what was inside their homes. It would be especially difficult for those who were pregnant or nursing. Neither winter (according to Matthew and Mark) nor the Sabbath (said Matthew) would be an ideal time to have to flee. George Peter Holford, in his 1805 book,<span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.preteristarchive.com/Books/pdf/1805_holford_proof-of-christianity.pdf"><span style="color:#0000ff;"> “The Destruction of Jerusalem, An Absolute and Irresistible Proof of the Divine Origin of Christianity,”</span></a></span> notes a very sad situation predicted in the words of Jesus Himself:</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">The day on which Titus encompassed Jerusalem, was the feast of the Passover; and it is deserving of the very particular attention of the reader, that this was the anniversary of that memorable period in which the Jews crucified their Messiah! At this season multitudes came up from all the surrounding country, and from distant parts, to keep the festival. How suitable and how kind, then, was the prophetic admonition of our LORD, and how clearly he saw into futurity when he said, “Let not them that are in the countries enter into Jerusalem” (Luke 21:21).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Nevertheless, the city was at this time crowded with Jewish strangers, and foreigners from all parts, so that the whole nation may be considered as having been shut up in one prison, preparatory to the execution of the Divine vengeance; and, according to Josephus this event took place <em>suddenly</em>; thus, not only fulfilling the predictions of our LORD, that these calamities should come, like the swift-darting lightning “that cometh out of the east and shineth even unto the West,” and ” as a <em>snare </em>on all of them (the Jews) who dwelt upon the face of the whole earth ” (Matt. 24:27, and Luke 21:35) but justifying, also, his friendly direction, that those who fled from the place should use the utmost possible [speed].</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">There is also a significant note to be made concerning Jesus’ instructions to pray that their flight from Jerusalem would not be on a Sabbath (Matthew 24:20). Prior to 70 AD the Jews who controlled the city would close the city gates on the Sabbath and there would be no way to escape (See <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Nehemiah%2013:15-22&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Nehemiah 13:15-22</span></a></span>). It’s significant to note that this is not a practice in modern Israel; if it was, it would be helpful to the Futurist view which says that this will happen soon. As one can see from the quotes above, this Futurist view is a new one that doesn’t reflect what has been taught in church history.</p>
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<h2 style="text-align:center;" align="center"><span style="text-decoration:underline;">GREAT TRIBULATION</span></h2>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Matt. 24:21/Mark 13:19/Luke 21:22-23</span></strong> – All three writers define this time as one of “<em>great distress</em>.” This is the phrase used in the NIV, quoted above. In most other translations, the phrase used by Matthew and Mark is “<em>great tribulation</em>.”  That time would be more distressful than any other time since the world began. Matthew and Mark add that it was “<em>never to be equaled again</em>.” This statement by Jesus is one more indication that the tribulation He spoke of is already past. For if this refers to a supposed end of the world in the future, and not 67-70 AD, why would Jesus say such a thing? It wouldn’t make sense to use the expression “<em>never to be equaled again</em>” when referring to an event that brings humanity to the very end of time. Instead this phrase implies that a significant period of time <strong>would follow</strong> the great tribulation Jesus spoke of, which makes sense if it took place in the first century. This passage has several parallels in Scripture, as can be seen from the following chart:</p>
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<td valign="top" width="121">JEREMIAH 30:7</td>
<td valign="top" width="216">DANIEL 12:1-7</td>
<td valign="top" width="138">MATTHEW 24:21</td>
<td valign="top" width="150">LUKE 21:22-23</td>
<td valign="top" width="130">REVELATION 7:14</td>
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<td valign="top" width="121">“Alas! That day is so great there is none like it; <strong>it is a time of distress <span style="color:#ff0000;">for Jacob</span></strong>;</td>
<td valign="top" width="216">“At that time shall arise Michael, the great prince who has charge of <strong><span style="color:#ff0000;">your people</span>. And there shall be a time of trouble</strong>,</td>
<td valign="top" width="138">“For then there will be <strong>great tribulation</strong>,</td>
<td valign="top" width="150">“Alas… For there will be <strong>great distress</strong> upon the earth [or ‘this land’] and wrath <span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong>against this people</strong></span>.”</td>
<td valign="top" width="130">“And he said to me, ‘These are the ones coming out of <strong>the great tribulation</strong>’…”</td>
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<td valign="top" width="121">“…<strong>there is none like it</strong>…”</td>
<td valign="top" width="216"><strong>such as never has been</strong> <span style="color:#ff0000;">since there was a nation till that time</span>.</td>
<td valign="top" width="138"><strong>such as has not been</strong> <span style="color:#ff0000;">from the beginning of the world until now</span>, no, and never will be.”</td>
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<td valign="top" width="121">yet <strong>he shall be saved out of it</strong>.”</td>
<td valign="top" width="216">But at that time <strong>your people shall be delivered, everyone whose name shall be found written in the book</strong>.”</td>
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<td valign="top" width="216">“And someone said…, ‘How long shall it be till the end of these wonders?’ And I heard…it would be for a time, times, and half a time, and that when the shattering of the power of the holy people comes to an end <strong>all these things would be finished</strong>.”</td>
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<td valign="top" width="150">“for these are days of vengeance, <strong>to fulfill all that is written</strong>” (verse 22).</td>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">So among the things which we see are that this tribulation was to be for Israel, it would last for 3.5 years (“<em>time, times, and half a time</em>”) and would end when the power of that people had been shattered (Daniel 12:6-7), and the followers of Christ would experience deliverance. We already saw that God delivered the believers of the first century when they obeyed and fled to Pella. <strong>The Roman campaign against Israel did in fact last for 3.5 years, from the time that Nero declared war in February 67 AD and dispatched Vespasian as his general (<span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%206:2&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Revelation 6:2</span></a></span>) until Jerusalem fell in August 70 AD (<span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%2018:9-24&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Revelation 18:9-24</span></a></span>).</strong> This accomplished the shattering of the power of “<em>the holy people</em>” (Daniel’s phrase).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Josephus vindicates the words of Jesus in Matthew 24:21 (“<em>For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, and never will be</em>.”) with his own firsthand report: “If the misfortunes of all nations, from the beginning of the world, were compared with those which befell the Jews, they would appear far less in comparison; No other city ever suffered such things, as no other generation, from the beginning of the world, was ever more fruitful in wickedness.”</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Luke, in his account, adds a couple of very revealing expressions, saying that this great distress would be “<strong><em>in the land</em></strong>” and that the wrath would be “<strong><em>against this people</em></strong>.” The phrase “<em>the land</em>” is not only a common expression in Scripture indicating “the promised land” (Israel), but Judea and Jerusalem are explicitly mentioned in verses 20, 21, and 24. Luke’s use of the phrase “<em>this people</em>” is also a clear reference to the Jews who lived in that land, who were left behind because they didn’t flee. Those who view the “great tribulation” as future tend to view it as a worldwide event, but these are very clear indications that this judgment was localized to Israel. We also have highly detailed historical records showing how utterly devastating Israel’s downfall was at this time in history (67 – 70 AD). To learn more, <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://kloposmasm.wordpress.com/2009/08/16/pp17-the-historical-events-leading-up-to-70-ad-part-1/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">see this fascinating timeline here</span></a></span>.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Another profound statement is made by Luke. He says that this time of punishment would be “<em>in fulfillment of all that has been written</em>.” It has been said by some futurists that the preterist (past fulfillment) position is anti-semitic, because it takes away prophetic significance from modern-day Israel and the Jewish people (over and above other peoples). Ironically, though, it’s the futurist position which is looking forward to mass devastation for Israel and the Jewish people, a time which will supposedly be even worse than what took place in 70 AD.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Matt. 24:22/Mark 13:20</span></strong> – Matthew and Mark record that the destruction during this time of tribulation would be so great that no one would survive if it was allowed to continue for long. This would be done, says Matthew, for the sake of the elect. Jerusalem was under a very tight siege for five months, from April through September 70 AD, before the whole city was burned (<span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2022:7&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Matthew 22:7</span></a></span>). The famine became so great that mothers even ate their own babies. Dead bodies were piled everywhere, and those who tried to escape the city were crucified by the Romans at such a rate that Josephus tells us more than one Jew would often be nailed to the same cross.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Luke 21:24</span></strong> – Luke tells us that many would be killed “<em>by the sword</em>” during this time. This, of course, is indicative of ancient warfare rather than 21<sup>st</sup> century style warfare. It is this section of Luke’s account (Luke 21:20-24) which many futurists admit took place in the first century. At the same time, they often insist that Luke’s phrase “<em>this generation</em>” in <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%2021:32&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Luke 21:32</span></a></span> means a future (or present) generation which will see all these signs come together at once. This position is highly contradictory, for at least the following reason.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">In the previous post, we saw that a number of signs precede “<em>the abomination of desolation</em>” and “<em>great tribulation</em>” in the accounts of Matthew and Mark: [1] imposters claiming to be Christ [2] wars and rumors of wars [3] nations and kingdoms clashing [4] earthquakes [5] famines [6] persecution and martyrdom [7] betrayal and hatred. Without a doubt, <span style="text-decoration:underline;">these exact same signs</span> also appear in Luke’s account before Jerusalem is surrounded by armies and there comes a time of “<em>great distress</em>.” According to the Futurist interpretation, then, the above seven signs precede two entirely different time periods; i.e. in Luke they refer to a time period in the first century, and in Matthew and Mark they supposedly refer to our own generation. As we will see in the next post, however, Jesus says in each account that “<em>this generation will not pass away until ALL these things take place</em>.” <strong>The Futurist who admits that the “great distress” in Luke 21:20-24 took place from 67-70 AD, but who says that the rest of the prophecy remains unfulfilled, has already stretched out the definition of a generation more than 1900 years.</strong></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Luke also speaks of many being taken as prisoners “<em>to all the nations</em>.” We learned from the previous post that when Jesus spoke of all nations (Matt. 24:14, Mark 13:10), this was a reference to the Roman Empire. The same is true here. Josephus tells us that nearly 1.2 million Jews were killed in Jerusalem, and that the Romans carried off 97,000 Jews into international slavery.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Luke tells us that the end of Jerusalem’s trampling by the Gentiles would also be the end of “<em>the times of the Gentiles</em>.” Perhaps the most popular Futurist position is that “<em>the times of the Gentiles</em>” <strong>began</strong> in 70 AD, that this continues until today (i.e. it’s the Church Age), and that “God’s program with the Jews will one day soon be resumed.” I believe this to be false, and that “<em>the times of the Gentiles</em>” <strong>ended</strong> in 70 AD instead. Without taking up more space here on this subject, I’d like to point to <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://mikeblume.com/timesgen.htm"><span style="color:#0000ff;">an article by Mike Blume</span></a></span>, whom I believe does an excellent job showing that the times of the Gentiles began with Babylon’s affliction and domination of Israel, followed by that of Medo-Persia and Greece, and finally ending with Rome’s destruction of that nation. He also shows that Luke 21:24 is parallel to both <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%2011:25&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Romans 11:25</span></a></span> and <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%2011:2&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Revelation 11:2</span></a></span>, which shows that Jerusalem was to be “trampled underfoot” for 42 months. Again, 42 months = 3.5 years, which is precisely how long Rome took to invade and destroy Jerusalem (February 67 AD – August 70 AD).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Matt. 24:23-26/Mark 13:21-23</span></strong> – Here Matthew and Mark essentially repeat Jesus’ earlier warning (see previous post) about false prophets and false messiahs. Jesus’ 1<sup>st</sup> century listeners are told to be on their guard (this really did have meaning for them), because these deceivers would even perform great signs and miracles. As David Chilton reminds us, in his 1987 book, <em>The Days of Vengeance</em> (p. 340),</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">“The Book of Acts records several instances of miracle-working Jewish false prophets who came into conflict with the Church (cf. <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%208:9-24&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Acts 8:9-24</span></a></span>) and worked under Roman officials (cf. <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%2013:6-11&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Acts 13:6-11</span></a></span>); as Jesus foretold (<span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%207:22-23&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Matt. 7:22-23</span></a></span>), some of them even used His name in their incantations (<span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%2019:13-16&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Acts 19:13-16</span></a></span>).”</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;"><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Matt. 24:27-28</span></strong> – Jesus compares His coming (which, again, He promised would take place while some of His disciples were still alive – <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2016:27-28&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Matt. 16:27-28</span></a></span>) to lightning which comes from the east and is also visible in the west. This statement appears only in Matthew’s account, the only account to have specifically mentioned His coming up until this point (<span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2024:1-3&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">in verse 3</span></a></span>). Adam Clarke, in his 1810 commentary on this verse, interpreted it this way:</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">“It is worthy of remark that our Lord, in the most particular manner, points out the very <em>march</em> of the Roman army: they entered into Judea on the EAST, and carried on their conquest WESTWARD, as if not only the extensiveness of the ruin, but the very <em>route</em> which the army would take, were intended in the comparison of the <em>lightning issuing from the east, and</em> <em>shining to the west</em>.”</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">Then Jesus adds, “<em>Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather</em>.” Some translations say “<em>eagles</em>” instead of “<em>vultures</em>.” George Peter Holford (in 1805) noted that not only was Israel fit to be described as a carcass in 70 AD; being spiritually, politically, and judicially dead; but it was also a curious fact that the eagle was the principal figure on the Roman ensigns which were planted throughout the city of Jerusalem in 70 AD and finally in the temple itself. Albert Barnes, in his commentary on these two verses in 1832, agreed:</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">“The words in this verse are proverbial. Vultures and eagles easily ascertain where dead bodies are, and come to devour them. So with the Roman army. Jerusalem is like a dead and putrid corpse. Its life is gone, and it is ready to be devoured. The Roman armies will find it out, as the vultures do a dead carcass, and will come around it, to devour it… This verse is connected with the preceding by the word &#8220;for,&#8221; implying that this is a reason for what is said there, that the Son of man would <em>certainly</em> come to destroy the city, and that he would come <em>suddenly</em>. The meaning is, he would come by means of the Roman armies, as certainly, as suddenly, and as unexpectedly, as whole flocks of vultures and eagles, though unseen before, suddenly find their prey, see it at a great distance, and gather in multitudes around it.”</p>
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<h2 style="text-align:center;" align="center"><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Quotes to Note</span></h2>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Jonathan Edwards (1736):</span></strong> “Thus there was a final end to the Old Testament world: all was finished with a kind of day of judgment, in which the people of God were saved, and His enemies terribly destroyed.”</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Philip Mauro, scholar and US Supreme Court bar lawyer (1859-1952):</span></strong> “It is greatly to be regretted that those who, in our day, give themselves to the study and exposition of prophecy, seem not to be aware of the<em> immense significance</em> of the destruction of Jerusalem in A.D. 70, which was accompanied by the extinction of Jewish national existence, and the dispersion of the Jewish people among all the nations. <span style="text-decoration:underline;">The failure to recognize the significance of that event, and the vast amount of prophecy which it fulfilled, has been the cause of great confusion, for the necessary consequence of missing the past fulfillment of predicted events is to leave on our hands a mass of prophecies for which we must needs contrive fulfillments in the future. The harmful results are twofold; for first, we are thus deprived of the evidential value, and the support to the faith, of those remarkable fulfillments of prophecy which are so clearly presented to us in authentic contemporary histories; and second, our vision of things to come is greatly obscured and confused by the transference to the future of predicted events which, in fact, have already happened</span>, and whereof complete records have been preserved for our information.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">“Yet, in the face of all this, we have today a widely held scheme of prophetic interpretation, which has for its very <span style="text-decoration:underline;">cornerstone</span> the idea that, when God’s time to remember His promised mercies to Israel shall at last have come, He will gather them into their ancient land again, only to pour upon them calamities and distresses far exceeding even the horrors which attended the destruction of Jerusalem in A.D. 70. This is, we are convinced, an error of such magnitude as to derange the whole program of unfulfilled prophecy” (<em>Seventy Weeks and the Great Tribulation</em>, 1921, emphasis added).</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the previous post (Part 1), we examined the first part of Jesus’ famous Olivet Discourse, recorded in Matthew 24:1-3, Mark 13:1-4, and Luke 21:5-7. All three accounts show the disciples admiring the temple, Jesus telling them it would soon be destroyed, and the disciples asking Him when that would take place. In Matthew’s account [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=kloposmasm.com&amp;blog=8756029&amp;post=1615&amp;subd=kloposmasm&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align:justify;">In <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="../2011/04/30/the-olivet-discourse-this-generation-or-that-generation-part-1-of-4/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">the previous post (Part 1)</span></a></span>, we examined the first part of Jesus’ famous <em>Olivet Discourse</em>, recorded in Matthew 24:1-3, Mark 13:1-4, and Luke 21:5-7. All three accounts show the disciples admiring the temple, Jesus telling them it would soon be destroyed, and the disciples asking Him when that would take place. In Matthew’s account alone they asked Him about His coming and the end of the age, which we identified as the Old Covenant age. We looked at how He had already told them (Matt. 10:23 and 16:27-28) that His coming was to be: [1] with His angels [2] in His kingdom [3] in the glory of His Father [4] to repay each person for their deeds, and [5] <span style="text-decoration:underline;">within the lifetime of some of His disciples</span>.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">In this post we will examine a roughly 10-verse segment in each account where Jesus describes some of the signs which would take place before the temple’s destruction. We will see how these signs were fulfilled between the time of His ascension around 30 AD and the temple’s overthrow in 70 AD, about 40 years later.</p>
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<h3 align="center">MATTHEW 24:4-14</h3>
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<h3 align="center">MARK 13:5-13</h3>
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<td valign="top" width="245"><sup>4</sup> Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. <sup>5</sup> For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many. <sup>6</sup> You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. <sup>7</sup> Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. <sup>8</sup>All these are the beginning of birth pains.<sup>9</sup> “Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. <sup>10</sup> At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, <sup>11</sup> and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. <sup>12</sup> Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, <sup>13</sup>but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved.<sup>14</sup> <strong>And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.</strong></td>
<td valign="top" width="245"><sup>5</sup> Jesus said to them: “Watch out that no one deceives you. <sup>6</sup> Many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am he,’ and will deceive many. <sup>7</sup> When you hear of wars and rumors of wars, do not be alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. <sup>8</sup>Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be earthquakes in various places, and famines. These are the beginning of birth pains.<sup>9</sup> “You must be on your guard. You will be handed over to the local councils and flogged in the synagogues. On account of me you will stand before governors and kings as witnesses to them. <sup>10</sup> <strong>And the gospel must first be preached to all nations.</strong> <sup>11</sup>Whenever you are arrested and brought to trial, do not worry beforehand about what to say. Just say whatever is given you at the time, for it is not you speaking, but the Holy Spirit.<sup>12</sup> “Brother will betray brother to death, and a father his child. Children will rebel against their parents and have them put to death. <sup>13</sup> Everyone will hate you because of me, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved.</td>
<td valign="top" width="245"><sup>8</sup> He replied: “Watch out that you are not deceived. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am he,’ and, ‘The time is near.’ Do not follow them. <sup>9</sup>When you hear of wars and uprisings, do not be frightened. These things must happen first, but the end will not come right away.”<sup>10</sup> Then he said to them: “Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. <sup>11</sup>There will be great earthquakes, famines and pestilences in various places, and fearful events and great signs from heaven.<sup>12</sup> “But before all this, they will seize you and persecute you. They will hand you over to synagogues and put you in prison, and you will be brought before kings and governors, and all on account of my name. <sup>13</sup> And so you will bear testimony to me. <sup>14</sup> But make up your mind not to worry beforehand how you will defend yourselves. <sup>15</sup> For I will give you words and wisdom that none of your adversaries will be able to resist or contradict. <sup>16</sup> You will be betrayed even by parents, brothers and sisters, relatives and friends, and they will put some of you to death. <sup>17</sup> Everyone will hate you because of me. <sup>18</sup> But not a hair of your head will perish. <sup>19</sup> Stand firm, and you will win life.</td>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">John Wesley (1703-1791), in the introduction to his commentary on Matthew 24, wrote the following:</p>
<blockquote><p>“Josephus’ <span style="color:#0000ff;"><em><a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=J.+BJ+1.1"><span style="color:#0000ff;">History of the Jewish War</span></a></em></span> is the best commentary on this chapter. It is a wonderful instance of God’s providence, that he, an eyewitness, and one who lived and died a Jew, should, especially in so extraordinary a manner, be preserved, to transmit to us a collection of important facts, which so exactly illustrate this glorious prophecy, in almost every circumstance.”</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Clearly, Wesley believed that Matthew 24 was fulfilled by the time the Roman-Jewish War (66-73 AD) came to an end. Nearly 250 years after Wesley’s statement was made, statements like <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.hallindsey.com/watchman-warning-7252009/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">this one by Hal Lindsey</span></a></span> in 2009 are far more typical when it comes to interpreting this passage:</p>
<blockquote><p>“What generation? Obviously, in context, the generation that would see the signs – chief among them the rebirth of the State of Israel… I believe we are in the generation that will live to see the fulfillment of the ‘birth pangs’ that Jesus predicted would all come together in one time frame shortly before the Tribulations events that bring about His return.”</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align:justify;">These interpretations couldn’t be more different. In this section of the Olivet Discourse, we will see that Wesley certainly had a point when he spoke of the relevance of Josephus’ historical records. We will be looking at one small portion at a time from the parallel Scripture texts above.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Matt. 24:4-5/Mark 13:5-6/Luke 21:8</span></strong> – Jesus warns the disciples about deceivers who would come claiming to be the Messiah and leading many astray. Matthew also speaks of “false prophets” again in verse 11; Luke adds that they would claim the time was near. George Peter Holford, in the year 1805, wrote <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.preteristarchive.com/Books/pdf/1805_holford_proof-of-christianity.pdf"><span style="color:#0000ff;">a book entitled “The Destruction of Jerusalem, An Absolute and Irresistible Proof of the Divine Origin of Christianity”</span></a></span> in which he outlined many of the events recorded by Josephus and other historians of that time. Concerning these two verses in Matthew’s account, he wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>[Jesus commenced] with a caution: “<em>Take heed,’ says He, ‘that no man deceive you; for many shall come in My name, saying, ‘I am Christ</em>,’ and shall deceive many.” The necessity of this friendly warning soon appeared; for within one year after our Lord’s ascension, rose Dositheus the Samaritan, who had the boldness to assert that he was the Messiah, of whom Moses prophesied; while his disciple Simon Magus deluded multitudes into a belief that he, himself, was the “GREAT POWER OF GOD.”</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Holford went on to list a host of similar deceivers in that generation, some who literally called themselves “the Christ” or “Messiah,” and others who promised to take on His expected role in delivering the Jews from Roman bondage and bringing a physical, earthly kingdom to Jerusalem. This was a popular expectation, and one that Jesus didn’t live up to, so it was easily used to sway people their way.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Matt. 24:6-7a/Mark 13:7-8a/Luke 21:9-10</span></strong> – Jesus’ next warning is about wars, rumors of wars, and nations and kingdoms rising against each other. Luke adds the word “uprisings.”</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Regarding the Roman Empire in the decades following Jesus’ ascension, the Roman historian Tacitus had this to say,</p>
<blockquote><p>“The history on which I am entering is that of a period rich in disasters, terrible with battles, torn by civil struggles, horrible even in peace. Four emperors fell by the sword; there were three civil wars, more foreign wars, and often both at the same time” (<em>The Histories</em>, 1:2).</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align:justify;">As just one example, the Roman-Jewish War took place over a 6-7 year period, in which an incredible amount of blood was shed throughout Judea and Galilee, and women even ate their babies out of desperation. When Nero committed suicide in June 68 AD, even the Roman Empire nearly collapsed in on itself due to jostling for power and what Josephus called “civil wars of horrible ferocity and dramatic proportions.” Rome went through four emperors within one year, and Josephus remarked that “every part of the habitable earth under them [the Romans] was in an unsettled and tottering condition” (Wars 7.4.2).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">In the fall/winter of 67 AD a brutal civil war also broke out in Jerusalem and Judea between the revolutionaries and those who wanted to maintain peace with Rome. Jerusalem was eventually divided into three factions led by [1] Eleazar, who was over the Zealots [2] John of Gischala, who was over the Galileans, and [3] Simon, who was over the Idumeans. It remained this way until the city was destroyed in September 70 AD. In one night 8500 people were killed, and their bodies were cast outside of Jerusalem without being buried. The outer temple was “overflowing with blood,” according to Josephus, and the inner court even had pools of blood in it.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Matt. 24:7b-8/Mark 13:8b/Luke 21:11</span></strong> – Jesus next predicts famines and earthquakes. Once again, Luke adds other details: pestilences and<em> “fearful events and great signs from heaven</em>.”</p>
<p><a href="http://kloposmasm.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/earthquake-1-new-zealand1.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-1617" title="Earthquake 1 New Zealand" src="http://kloposmasm.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/earthquake-1-new-zealand1.jpg?w=219&#038;h=164" alt="" width="219" height="164" /></a><a href="http://kloposmasm.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/earthquake-3-haiti.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-1619" title="Earthquake 3 Haiti" src="http://kloposmasm.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/earthquake-3-haiti.jpg?w=268&#038;h=163" alt="" width="268" height="163" /></a><a href="http://kloposmasm.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/earthquake-4-japan.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-1620" title="Earthquake 4 Japan" src="http://kloposmasm.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/earthquake-4-japan.jpg?w=293&#038;h=177" alt="" width="293" height="177" /></a></p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">              </span><a href="http://thegaminggang.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/earthquake-new-zealand.jpg"><span style="color:#0000ff;">New Zealand</span></a>                                   </span>             <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://adiaha.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Haiti_Earthquake_Prepares_for_Death_Toll_of_Thousands_xlarge.jpg"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Haiti</span></a>                                                            <a href="http://www.hamwx.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/ap_east_japan_earthquake_damage_ll_110311_wg.jpg"><span style="color:#0000ff;"> Japan</span></a></span></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Was Jesus predicting the recent earthquakes we&#8217;ve seen in Pakistan, New Zealand, Haiti, and Japan, and others yet to come? Many prophecy teachers today would have us believe that He did. George Peter Holford (in 1805) also referred to a number of great earthquakes which took place during the generation to which Jesus and His disciples belonged. At this time there were also terrifying storms and violent winds, the like of which prompted Josephus to say, “It seems as if the system of the world had been confounded for the destruction of mankind; <strong>and one might well conjecture that these were signs of no common events</strong>.” Large earthquakes took place in Crete, Smyrna, Miletus, Chios, Samos, Laodicea, Hierapolis, Colosse, Campania, Rome, Judea and Pompei (February 5, 63 AD). Other earthquakes are recorded in Scripture in <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2027:51-54&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Matthew 27:51-54</span></a></span>, <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2028:2&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Matthew 28:2</span></a></span>, and <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%2016:26&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Acts 16:26</span></a></span>.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Holford then notes that the great famine predicted by Agabus in <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%2011:27-30&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Acts 11:27-30</span></a></span> began in the fourth year of the reign of Claudius (i.e. 45 AD) and “was of long continuance. It extended through Greece, and even into Italy, but was felt most severely in Judea and especially at Jerusalem, where many perished for want of bread.” (In <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%2015:26&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Romans 15:26</span></a></span> and <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=I%20Corinthians%2016:1-3&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">I Corinthians 16:1-3</span></a></span>, we see Paul collecting financial gifts from believers in other locations to give to the struggling believers in Jerusalem.) This famine was recorded by Eusebius, Orosius, and Josephus, who related that “an assaron [about 3.5 pints] of corn was sold for five drachmae” (in the heyday of ancient Greece in the 4<sup>th</sup> century BC one drachmae was the daily wage for a skilled worker). This brings to mind <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%206:6&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Revelation 6:6</span></a></span>, where under the third seal judgment it is said that a denarius (or a typical daily wage) would only purchase a quart of wheat. This situation was said by Josephus to have climaxed during the five-month siege on Jerusalem in 67-70 AD. Regarding Christ’s predictions of pestilences, Holford writes:</p>
<blockquote><p>History…particularly distinguishes two instances of this calamity, which occurred before the commencement of the Jewish war. The first took place at Babylon about A. D. 40, and raged so alarmingly, that great <em>multitudes </em>of <em>Jews </em>fled from that city to Seleucia for<em> </em>safety, as hath been hinted already. The other happened at Rome A.D. 65, and carried off prodigious <em>multitudes. </em>Both Tacitus and Suetonius also record, that similar calamities prevailed, during this period, in various parts of the Roman Empire. After <em>Jerusalem </em>was surrounded by the army of Titus, <em>pestilential </em>diseases soon made their appearance there to aggravate the miseries, and deepen the horrors of the siege. They were partly occasioned by the immense multitudes which were crowded together in the city, partly by the putrid effluvia which arose from the unburied dead, and partly from spread of <em>famine</em>.</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align:justify;">These calamities, along with mothers eating their own children, are reminiscent of what God said would happen to Israel if that nation became faithless and rebellious (e.g. <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus%2026:25-29&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Leviticus 26:25-2</span>9</a>, <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy%2028:58-62&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Deuteronomy 28:58-62</span></a></span>, <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy%2032&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Deut. 32</span></a></span>). It was also said that they would be punished sevenfold, so it’s of great interest that “Babylon the great” (<span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="../2009/12/13/revelation-chapter-17-part-1-verses-1-6/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Revelation 17:5</span></a></span>), also called “the great city” (<span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="../2009/12/13/revelation-chapter-17-part-2-verses-7-18/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Rev. 17:18</span></a></span>), was to be the recipient of seven seal, trumpet, and bowl judgments. The “great city” in the book of Revelation was first identified as the place where Jesus was crucified (<span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%2011:8&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Rev. 11:8</span></a></span>), i.e. Jerusalem. “Babylon the great” was responsible for the blood of the saints, prophets, and apostles (<span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%2016:4-7&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Rev. 16:4-7</span></a></span>, <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%2017:6&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">17:6</span></a></span>, <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%2018:20&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">18:20</span></a></span>, <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%2018:24&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">18:24</span></a></span>), the same thing for which Jesus said the religious leaders of Israel in His own generation were responsible for (<span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2023:29-36&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Matthew 23:29-36</span></a></span>).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Jesus also predicted that there would be “<em>terrors and great signs from heaven</em>” (Luke 21:11). In this regard, Holford pointed to a number of strange accounts recorded by Josephus:</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;text-align:justify;">[1] “A meteor, resembling a sword, hung over Jerusalem during one whole year.” This could not be a comet, for it was stationary, and was visible for twelve successive months.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;text-align:justify;">[2] “On the eighth of the month of Zanthicus, (before the feast of unleavened bread) at the ninth hour of the night [3 AM], there shone round about the altar, and the circumjacent buildings of the temple, a light equal to the brightness of the day, which continued for the space of half an hour.” [Does this recall <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Zechariah%2014:7&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Zech. 14:7</span></a></span>?]</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;text-align:justify;">[3] “As the High Priest was leading a heifer to the altar to be sacrificed, she brought forth a <em>lamb, </em>in the midst of the temple.” …[Some] may think that they discern in this prodigy a miraculous rebuke of Jewish infidelity and impiety, for rejecting the ANTITYPICAL Lamb, who had offered Up Himself as an atonement, “once <em>for all,” </em>and who, by thus completely fulfilling their design, had virtually abrogated the Levitical sacrifices… It did not occur in an obscure part of the city, but in the <em>temple </em>; not at an ordinary time, but at <em>the passover, </em>the season of our LORD’S crucifixion in the presence…of the <em>High </em>Priests and their attendants, and when they were <em>leading the sacrifice</em> <em>to the altar</em>.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;text-align:justify;">[4] “About the sixth hour of the night, the eastern gate of the temple was seen to open without human assistance.” When the guards informed the Curator of this event, he sent men to assist them in shutting it, who with great difficulty succeeded. — This gate, as hath been observed already, ‘Was of solid brass, and required twenty men to close it every evening. It could not have been opened by a “strong gust of wind,” or a <em>slight </em>earthquake;” for Josephus says, it was secured by iron bolts And bars, which were let down into a large threshold; consisting of one entire stone.”</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;text-align:justify;">[5] “Soon after the feast of the Passover, in various parts of the country, before the setting of the sun, chariots and armed men were seen in the air, passing round about Jerusalem.”</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Except for the first omen above, says Holford, all the others were placed by Josephus during the final year leading up to the Jewish War (67-73 AD). Some of these accounts were also recorded by the Roman historian Tacitus.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Matt. 24:9-13/Mark 13:9-13/Luke 21:12-19</span></strong> – Here Jesus tells His followers that they will experience persecution, arrests, death, and betrayal even by family members because of their faith in Him. Many would turn away from the faith, but those who would stand firm until the end would be saved. Matthew alone adds that wickedness would increase and that most would grow cold in their love. Mark and Luke speak of Christ’s followers needing to testify before kings and governors, at which time they were to depend on the Holy Spirit to give them the words to say.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">On the early believers being brought before kings and governors, Albert Barnes remarked in 1834, “This prediction was completely and abundantly fulfilled, <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://bible.cc/acts/5-26.htm"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Acts 5:26</span></a></span>; <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://niv.scripturetext.com/acts/12-1.htm"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Acts 12:1-4</span></a></span>; <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://bible.cc/acts/23-33.htm"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Acts 23:33</span></a></span>; <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://niv.scripturetext.com/acts/26-1.htm"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Acts 26:1</span></a></span>, <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://niv.scripturetext.com/acts/26-28.htm"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Acts 26:28</span></a></span>, <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://bible.cc/acts/26-30.htm"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Acts 26:30</span></a></span>. Peter is said to have been brought before Nero, and John before Domitian, Roman emperors; and others before Parthian, Scythian, and Indian kings.” John Gill, in 1746, added: “Meaning Roman governors; so Paul was had before Gallio, Felix, and Festas; … and kings for my sake; as Herod, Agrippa, Nero, Domitian, and others, before whom one or other of the apostles were brought; not as thieves, or murderers, or traitors, and seditious persons, or for having done any wrong or injury to any man&#8217;s person or property; but purely for the sake of Christ.”</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Mark and Luke also both speak of Jesus’ followers being handed over <strong>to the synagogues</strong>, and Mark adds that they would be flogged there. This clearly speaks of persecution at the hands of the Jews, just one strong indication that this was to take place in the first century. Jewish persecution is not a mark of our time, but it was a mark of that time (In fact, it only prevailed up until Israel’s destruction in 70 AD, for after that the surviving Jews were persecuted together with the Christians by the Roman Empire). For example, Paul said this to the Thessalonian believers (I Thess. 2:14-16):</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em>For you, brothers, became imitators of the churches of God in Christ Jesus that are in Judea. For you suffered the same things from your own countrymen as they did from <strong>the Jews, who killed both the Lord Jesus and the prophets, and drove us out, and displease God and oppose all mankind by hindering us from speaking to the Gentiles that they might be saved</strong> – so as always to fill up the measure of their sins. But God’s wrath has come upon them at last</em>!”</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The city of Smyrna had the largest Jewish population of any Asian city, and Jesus commended the church there for their patient endurance in the face of Jewish persecution (Revelation 2:9): “<em>I know your tribulation and your poverty (but you are rich) and the slander of those who say that they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan</em>.” A very similar statement was made to the church in Philadelphia in <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%203:9&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Rev. 3:9</span></a></span>.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Concerning the love of many growing cold, even as we see in Acts and the epistles evidence that the gospel was greatly advanced, we also learn of a falling away taking place at the same time. The church in Ephesus had abandoned the love they had at first (Revelation 2:4), the church in Laodicea had become lukewarm and was in a miserable state (Rev. 3:15-17). The church in Galatia had turned aside to a different gospel (Galatians 1:6-7).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Matt. 24:14/Mark 13:10</span></strong> – Luke doesn’t mention this, but both Matthew and Mark state that the end wouldn’t come until the gospel was preached to “<em>all nations</em>” (Mark) and “<em>in the whole world</em>” (Matthew). “<em>The end</em>,” of course, was “<em>the end of the age</em>” spoken of in Matthew 24:3.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Here is where many might object that Matthew 24:14 couldn’t have possibly been fulfilled before 70 AD. However, we can’t overlook the testimonies of Scripture itself:</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;text-align:justify;">[1] “<em>Now there were dwelling in Jerusalem Jews, devout men <strong>from every nation under heaven</strong>… And they were amazed and astonished, saying… ‘we hear them telling in our own tongues the mighty works of God</em>’” (Acts 2:5-11).</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;text-align:justify;">[2] “<em>First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for all of you, because your faith is <strong>proclaimed in all the world</strong></em>” (Romans 1:8).</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;text-align:justify;">[3] “<em>Now to Him who is able to strengthen you according to my gospel and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery that was kept secret for long ages but has now been disclosed and through the prophetic writings <strong>has been made known to all nations</strong></em>…” (Romans 16:25-26).</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;text-align:justify;">[4] “…<em>the word of the truth, the gospel, which has come to you, <strong>as indeed in the whole world</strong> it is bearing fruit and growing…</em> (Colossians 1:5-6).</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;text-align:justify;">[5] “…<em>if indeed you continue in the faith, stable and steadfast, not shifting from the hope of the gospel that you heard, <strong>which has been proclaimed in all creation under heaven</strong>, and of which I, Paul, became a minister</em> (Colossians 1:23).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Do these statements not indicate that Matthew 24:14 had already been fulfilled by the time they were written? The phrase “the whole world” here then must mean what it meant in Luke 2:1 when we are told that “<em>the entire world</em>” was registered in the days of Caesar Augustus, i.e. the known world or the Roman Empire (cf. <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%2024:5&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Acts 24:5</span></a></span>). Eusebius (263-339), the early church father, said this when commenting on Matthew 24:</p>
<blockquote><p>Thus, under the influence of heavenly power, and with the divine co-operation, the doctrine of the Saviour, like the rays of the sun, quickly illumined the whole world; [1] and straightway, in accordance with the divine Scriptures, [2] the voice of the inspired evangelists and apostles went forth through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world;  the Apostles preached the Gospel in all the world, and some of them passed beyond the bounds of the ocean, and visited the Britannic isles.</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Bishop Newton of Brazil (ordained in 1949) says of the spread of the gospel:</p>
<blockquote><p>It appears from the writers of the history of the church, that before the destruction of Jerusalem the Gospel was not only preached in the <em>Lesser Asia, and Greece, </em>and Italy, the great theatres of action then in the world, but was likewise propagated as fax northward as Scythia, as far southward as <em>Ethiopia, </em>as far eastward as <em>Parthia </em>and India, as far westward as Spain and Britain.</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align:justify;">John Wesley believed Jesus didn’t mean in this verse that the gospel would be preached in all the world “universally” before the end came. He said, “[T]his is not done yet: but in general through the several parts of the world, and not only in Judea [this happened]. And this was done by St. Paul and the other apostles, before Jerusalem was destroyed. <em>And then shall the end come</em>—of the city and temple.” Today we don’t need to be motivated by an impending time of judgment, and certainly not a desire “to be raptured out of here,” in order to preach the gospel. Just as the early church succeeded in spreading the gospel throughout their known world, we should be about the business of doing the same. Paul’s motivation can be ours:</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;text-align:justify;">“I make it my ambition to preach the gospel, not where Christ has already been named, lest I build on someone else’s foundation, but as it is written, ‘Those who have never been told of Him will see, and those who have never heard will understand’” (Romans 15:20-21).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">In the next post (Part 3), one of the things we will look at is what Jesus said about the abomination of desolation, and the surrounding of Jerusalem by foreign armies, and how the early believers did flee as Jesus told them to when they saw those things.</p>
<h3 style="text-align:center;" align="center"><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Quotes to Note</span></h3>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">F.W. Farrar (1831-1903):</span></strong> “The Fall of Jerusalem and all the events which accompanied and followed it in the Roman world and in the Christian world, had a significance which it is hardly possible to overestimate. <strong>They were the final end of the Old Dispensation. They were the full inauguration of the New Covenant.</strong> They were God’s own overwhelming judgment on that form of Judaic Christianity which threatened to crush the work of St. Paul, to lay on the Gentiles the yoke of abrogated Mosaism, to establish itself by threats and anathemas as the only orthodoxy… No event less awful than the desolation of Judea, the destruction of Judaism, the annihilation of all possibility of observing the precepts of Moses, could have opened the eyes of the Judaisers from their dream of imagined infallibility. Nothing but God’s own unmistakable interposition – nothing but the manifest coming of Christ – could have persuaded Jewish Christians that the Law of the Wilderness was annulled” (<em>The Early Days of Christianity,</em><em> </em><em>1882,</em><em> </em>pp. 489-490).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">R.C. Sproul (1997-98):</span></strong> “The coming of Christ in A.D.70 was a coming in judgment on the Jewish nation, indicating the end of the Jewish age and the fulfillment of a day of the Lord. Jesus really did come in judgment at this time, fulfilling his prophecy in the Olivet Discourse” (<em>The Last Days According to Jesus</em>, p. 158, 1998). “The most significant, redemptive, historical action that takes place outside the New Testament, is the judgment that falls on Jerusalem, and by which judgment the Christian Church now [clearly] emerges as The Body of Christ” (R.C. Sproul, <em>Dust to Glory</em> video series, 1997).</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Much attention is being given these days to what is known as The Olivet Discourse, found in three of the four gospel accounts: Matthew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21. Jesus delivered this famous address from the Mount of Olives just days before His crucifixion. Many today are linking this narrative to current events, such [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=kloposmasm.com&amp;blog=8756029&amp;post=1585&amp;subd=kloposmasm&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align:justify;">Much attention is being given these days to what is known as <em>The Olivet Discourse</em>, found in three of the four gospel accounts: Matthew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21. Jesus delivered this famous address from the Mount of Olives just days before His crucifixion. Many today are linking this narrative to current events, such as recent large earthquakes and tsunamis in Japan, Haiti, New Zealand, and Indonesia. They believe these are sure signs pointing to the end of the world.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">   <a href="http://kloposmasm.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/the-end-is-near-13.jpg"><img class=" wp-image-1596 alignnone" title="The End Is Near 1" src="http://kloposmasm.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/the-end-is-near-13.jpg?w=153&#038;h=230" alt="" width="153" height="230" /></a><a href="http://kloposmasm.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/the-end-is-near-22.gif"><img class=" wp-image-1597 alignnone" title="The End Is Near 2" src="http://kloposmasm.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/the-end-is-near-22.gif?w=259&#038;h=220" alt="" width="259" height="220" /></a><a href="http://kloposmasm.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/the-end-is-near-3.jpg"><img class=" wp-image-1598 alignnone" title="The End Is Near 3" src="http://kloposmasm.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/the-end-is-near-3.jpg?w=216&#038;h=225" alt="" width="216" height="225" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">         <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.cartoonstock.com/directory/s/snappy.asp"><span style="color:#0000ff;">SOURCE</span></a>                                              <a href="http://arbevere.blogspot.com/2011/04/end-is-near-well-close-wait-hold-on.html"><span style="color:#0000ff;">SOURCE</span></a></span>                                                       <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://anesthesia.mc.duke.edu/modules/anes_mse_aig/index.php?id=9"><span style="color:#0000ff;">SOURCE</span></a></span></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Is this how Jesus intended for us to view this prophecy? When He said, “<em>This generation will certainly not pass away until all these things take place</em>” (Matt. 24:34, Mark 13:30, Luke 21:32), was He speaking of a generation 2000 years into the future? Or was He speaking of His own generation, and events which were to take place in their time? When He said “<span style="text-decoration:underline;">this</span> generation,” did He really mean “<span style="text-decoration:underline;">that</span> generation” (one that was distant to His first century audience)? This is what we will be looking at in the four posts which will make up this series. We will examine all three accounts of this prophecy side-by-side, as I believe this will be helpful in seeing what Jesus was saying and how He intended to be understood.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">In this first post, we will take a close look at the initial remarks made by Jesus’ disciples, His shocking response, and their resulting question(s) which led to His discourse. Here is that text, from the accounts of <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2024:1-34&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Matthew</span></a></span>, <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark%2013:1-30&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Mark</span></a></span>, and <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%2021:5-32&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Luke</span></a></span>.</p>
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<td style="text-align:justify;" valign="top" width="245"><sup>1</sup> Jesus left the temple and was walking away when his disciples came up to him to call his attention to its buildings. <sup>2</sup> <strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">“Do you see all these things?”</span></strong> he asked. “Truly I tell you, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down.”<sup>3</sup> As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. “Tell us,” they said, “<strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">when will this happen, and what will be the sign</span></strong> <strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">of your coming and of the end of the age</span>?</strong>”<sup> </sup></td>
<td style="text-align:justify;" valign="top" width="245"><sup>1</sup>As Jesus was leaving the temple, one of his disciples said to him, “Look, Teacher! What massive stones! What magnificent buildings!”<sup>2</sup> <strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">“Do you see all these great buildings?”</span></strong> replied Jesus. “Not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down.”<sup>3</sup> As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives opposite the temple, Peter, James, John and Andrew asked him privately, <sup>4</sup> “Tell us, <strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">when will these things happen, and what will be the sign</span></strong> <strong><span style="color:#ff0000;">that they are all about to be fulfilled</span>?</strong>”</td>
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<p style="text-align:justify;"><sup>5</sup> Some of his disciples were remarking about how the temple was adorned with beautiful stones and with gifts dedicated to God. But Jesus said, <sup>6</sup> <strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">“As for what you see here</span></strong>, the time will come when not one stone will be left on another; every one of them will be thrown down.”</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"> <sup>7</sup> “Teacher,” they asked, “<strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">when will these things happen, and what will be the sign</span></strong> <strong><span style="color:#ff0000;">that they are about to take place</span>?</strong>”</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">In all three accounts we see one or more of the disciples admiring the beautiful, massive stones which made up<span style="color:#0000ff;"> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Temple"><span style="color:#0000ff;">the Second Temple</span></a></span>. According to some Jews who encountered Jesus early in His ministry (<span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%202:18-22&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">John 2:18-22</span></a></span>), Herod’s massive expansion project had already been going on for 46 years. Indeed, history tells us that it began in 19 BC, and that the renovations continued until 65 AD, a mere five years before the temple was destroyed by the Romans. Tacitus (56-117 AD), the Roman historian and Senator, said that the temple “was famous beyond all other works of men.”</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Jesus’ response to His disciples’ remarks must have been shocking, in light of the breathtaking sight before their eyes: “<em>Not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down</em>.” Of course, <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%2019:41-44&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Jesus had said this before</span></a></span>. His ominous prophecy, though, is what prompts their next question. Or is it questions (plural)? There is only one specific question asked in all three accounts. In the accounts of Mark and Luke, at least, there should be no doubt that it’s this question which Jesus spends the next 25 or 26 verses answering: “…<em>when will these things</em> <em>happen, and what will be the sign that they are about to be fulfilled?</em>” The only thing Jesus had said would happen at this point was that all the temple’s stones would be thrown down.</p>
<div id="attachment_1586" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 650px"><a href="http://kloposmasm.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/second-temple.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-1586 " title="Second Temple" src="http://kloposmasm.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/second-temple.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="422" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Model of the Second Temple; Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jerus-n4i.jpg</p></div>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Do we know from history that this temple, the same temple the disciples observed, was destroyed? Yes, we do. Josephus, the Jewish historian, for example, records in astounding detail how Jerusalem and the temple were destroyed in 70 AD after a horrendous 5-month siege (see <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://kloposmasm.wordpress.com/2009/08/16/pp17-the-historical-events-leading-up-to-70-ad-part-1/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">here</span></a></span>, <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://kloposmasm.wordpress.com/2009/08/22/pp18-the-historical-events-leading-up-to-70-ad-part-2/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">here</span></a></span>, and <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://kloposmasm.wordpress.com/2009/08/22/pp19-the-historical-events-leading-up-to-70-ad-part-3/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">here</span></a></span> to learn more about what happened). According to both Mark and Luke, the signs that Jesus gave in the next 25 verses (in Luke’s case) and the next 26 verses (in Mark’s case) were to <strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">precede</span></strong> the downfall of the temple. In the next couple of posts, we will look at those prophesied signs, which include earthquakes and other calamities. Many today are saying that these same prophesied signs are happening in our own day, and that this means we are only now about to see Jesus’ prophecies fulfilled. How can this be, though, if they were to happen <strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">before</span></strong> a prophesied event <strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">which we know took place</span></strong> 1,941 years ago?</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Only in Matthew’s account do the disciples perhaps appear to ask two additional questions: [1] about Jesus’ coming and [2] about “<em>the end of the age</em>.” For those who believe that Matthew 24 has yet to be fulfilled, it’s often these questions which are said to indicate a required future fulfillment, despite the fact that they don’t even appear in Mark’s and Luke’s parallel accounts. It’s common these days to see a division of questions, as if the disciples asked about the near future as well as the very distant future, but as this study continues we’ll see that it wasn’t so common in earlier church history. Thomas Newton, a well-known English cleric, scholar, and author, said the following in 1754 about this passage:</p>
<blockquote><p>‘The coming of Christ,’ and ‘the conclusion of the age,’ being therefore only <span style="text-decoration:underline;">different expressions</span> to denote the <span style="text-decoration:underline;">same period</span> with the destruction of Jerusalem, the purpose of the question plainly is, when shall the destruction of Jerusalem be, and what shall be the signs of it?</p></blockquote>
<h3 align="center"><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Background to Jesus’ Promised Coming: Matthew 10:23 and 16:27-28</span></h3>
<p style="text-align:justify;">What prompted the disciples to ask about Jesus’ coming, especially in the context of what He said about the temple’s impending destruction? Where had Jesus previously spoken of His coming, and what had He said about this event? Jesus had in fact spoken of His coming twice already in Matthew’s account. In Matthew 10:23, Jesus made this very interesting statement: “<em>When they persecute you in one town, flee to the next, for truly, I say to you, <strong>you will not have gone through all the towns of Israel before the Son of Man come</strong></em><strong>s</strong>.”<strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"><a title="" href="#_edn1"><span style="color:#0000ff;">[i]</span></a></span></strong> During the next couple of decades after Jesus said this, we can see numerous examples of Jesus and His followers doing this very thing (e.g. <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2012:14-15&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Matthew 12:14-15</span></a></span>, <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%208:1&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Acts 8:1</span></a></span>, <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%209:23-25&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Acts 9:23-25</span></a></span>, <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%209:29-30&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Acts 9:29-30</span></a></span>, <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%2014:5-6&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Acts 14:5-6</span></a></span>, <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%2017:4-10&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Acts 17:4-10</span></a></span>, <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%2017:13-14&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Acts 17:13-14</span></a></span>).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">In Matthew 16:27-28, He was even more descriptive about what His coming would accomplish, and within what timeframe it would take place: “<em>For the Son of Man is going to come with His angels in the glory of His Father, and then <strong>He will repay</strong> each person for what he has done. Truly, I say to you, <strong>there are some standing here who will not taste death until</strong> they see the Son of Man <strong>coming in His kingdom</strong></em>.”</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">If this statement was fulfilled in His transfiguration six days later, as some contend, in what sense did Jesus “<em>come with His angels</em>” then and repay each person according to what he had done (a clear picture of judgment)? We know this didn’t happen on that occasion. We also know that none of His disciples died within those six days, but some were indeed martyred before 70 AD when Jerusalem and the temple were destroyed. To believe that Jesus hasn’t yet (in the year 2011) come back as He promised in this passage is to believe either that [a] He lied or [b] there are 2000 year old men still walking around on this planet.<strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"><a title="" href="#_edn2"><span style="color:#0000ff;">[ii]</span></a></span></strong> Let’s look at four aspects of this promised coming, as this should help us to know what was in the minds of Jesus’ disciples when they asked Him about His coming in Matthew 24:3.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">1. IN HIS KINGDOM</span></strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">:</span> From this text, we know that one purpose for His coming, which He promised would take place before all of His disciples had died, was to establish His kingdom. This fits perfectly with the following prophecy given to Daniel: “<em>And in the days of those kings<strong>*</strong> the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that shall never be destroyed, nor shall the kingdom be left to another people</em>” (Daniel 2:44). [<strong>*</strong>Biblical scholars hold a virtual consensus that the four kingdoms in Daniel’s vision were Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, and Rome. Since Rome was destroyed in 476 AD, we know that, for this prophecy to be true, the kingdom was set up before that time.] A first century fulfillment fits; a 21<sup>st</sup> century fulfillment doesn’t. Furthermore, the kingdom was to be given to the saints (Daniel 7:18, 22, 27). This is reminiscent of <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2021:33-46&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Jesus’ words in the Parable of the Tenants</span></a></span> that the kingdom of God would soon be taken away from the Jewish leaders and their nation and given instead “<em>to a people producing its fruits</em>” (Matthew 21:43) – a clear description of the body of Christ. This was to happen even as the stone was to crush those who would fall (verse 44) – 1.1 million Jews killed in August/September 70 AD by the Romans would seem to qualify as a fulfillment of this prediction.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">2. TO REPAY EACH PERSON:</span></strong> The context of Jesus’ promise to come “to repay each person” for what they had done was His foretelling of His own death and suffering at the hands of the Jewish leaders (<span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2016:21-23&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Matt. 16:21-23</span></a></span>), and also of the suffering that His own disciples could expect (<span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2016:24-26&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">verses 24-26</span></a></span>). In other words, it would be for vindication. This is similar in nature to what Paul promised to the Thessalonian believers when he told them that they could expect relief “<em>when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels in flaming fire, inflicting vengeance</em>” (<span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=II%20Thessalonians%201:5-10&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">II Thessalonians 1:7</span></a></span>), with the purpose being “<em>to repay with affliction those who afflict you</em>” (verse 6). This was imminent in their day, for Paul said that the wrath of God had already come upon the Jewish persecutors (<span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=I%20Thessalonians%202:14-16&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">I Thess. 2:14-16</span></a></span>). He knew this to be true because Jesus had declared <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2023:35-36&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">in no uncertain terms (Matthew 23:35-36)</span></a></span> that the blood of all the prophets would be required of His own (first century) generation in Israel.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">3. WITH HIS ANGELS:</span></strong> Just like Paul’s prophecy to the Thessalonians, Jesus’ promise to come while some of His disciples were still alive (Matt. 16:28) was also to involve His angels (“<em>The Son of Man is going to come with His angels</em>…”). As my good friend, Mark Church, has pointed out, all throughout <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://kloposmasm.wordpress.com/revelation/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">the book of Revelation</span></a></span> we see His angels pouring out judgment upon “the great city” where the Lord was crucified (Revelation 11:8) – that is, Jerusalem, the same city which was marked as a harlot because of its shedding of the blood of the saints and martyrs (<span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://kloposmasm.wordpress.com/2009/12/13/revelation-chapter-17-part-1-verses-1-6/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Rev. 17:1-6</span></a></span>), apostles, and prophets (<span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://kloposmasm.wordpress.com/2010/01/18/revelation-18/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Rev. 18:20-24</span></a></span>). [For those who believe that Revelation remains unfulfilled, is there any modern nation or entity which is responsible for the martyrdom of the apostles?]</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">4. IN THE GLORY OF HIS FATHER:</span></strong> Jesus also promised to come “<em>in the glory of His Father</em>” (Matt. 16:27). As <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdXc7Tc_VFA&amp;feature"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Don Preston well points out</span></a></span>, this can be understood to mean that just as the Father had come in the past, Jesus would also come in the same manner. Don gives as an example Isaiah 64:1-3, where the writer declares that God had “come down” numerous times in the past:</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">“Oh, that You would rend the heavens and come down, that the mountains might quake at Your presence – as when fire kindles brushwood, and the fire causes water to boil – to make Your name known to Your adversaries, and that the nations might tremble at Your presence! When You did awesome things that we did not look for, <strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">You came down</span></strong>, the mountains quaked at Your presence.”</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">Just as the Father’s comings in times past had not been bodily, visible, or physical in nature, neither would the coming of Jesus in judgment be bodily, visible, or physical. We will discuss this in more depth when we come to Jesus’ predicted coming in the clouds in Matt. 24:30/Mark 13:26/Luke 21:27. We will see that there are numerous examples in the Old Testament where God is said to have come in the clouds in judgment upon various nations and enemies of His people, even examples where the language is remarkably similar to the language used in The Olivet Discourse.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">So we can see from these two passages (Matt. 10:23 and 16:27-28) why Jesus’ disciples expected Him to come again in their own lifetimes. We’re also beginning to see why, in Matthew 24:3, they linked this coming to His dark prediction about the temple’s future. Other strong clues also exist in the previous two chapters (Matthew 22-23).<span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong><a title="" href="#_edn3"><span style="color:#0000ff;">[iii]</span></a> </strong></span>Kevin Daly, from the South African ministry “Messianic Good News,” has this to say:</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">It is Jesus&#8217; confirmation that the Temple&#8217;s fate is sealed that leads to the disciples&#8217; question: ‘When will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?&#8217;</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Some argue this to be three separate questions &#8211; so that Jesus&#8217; answer in the subsequent verses must be unraveled and applied to three different events, namely (i) the temple&#8217;s destruction, (ii) his coming and (iii) the end of the age. But this is not supported by the parallel accounts in Mark&#8217;s and Luke&#8217;s gospels. These render the disciples&#8217; question as follows:</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">‘Tell us, when will these things happen? And what will be the sign that they are all about to be fulfilled?&#8217; (Mark 13:4)</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">‘Teacher,&#8217; they asked, ‘when will these things happen? And what will be the sign that they are about to take place?&#8217; (Luke 21:7)</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">In Matthew&#8217;s wording of the disciples&#8217; question, what Jesus prophesied against the Temple would, by implication, happen at our Lord&#8217;s <em>coming in judgment</em> and would also, by further implication, bring about <em>the end of that age.</em></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Matthew phrases the question in the prophetic language of the Old Testament, which was familiar to the Jewish audience for which his gospel was written. In this language, the execution of Divine judgment was commonly spoken of as a visitation of the LORD, as either <em>His coming</em> or <em>His coming in the cloud.</em> [Consider] Micah&#8217;s prophecy against the ‘high places&#8217; of Judah - being localities of false worship, which the Temple in Jerusalem had now become:</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">&#8216;For behold, <em>the LORD comes forth from His place</em>, and will <em>come down</em>, and tread upon the high places of the earth. And the mountains shall be melted under Him, and the valleys shall be cleft, as wax before the fire, and as the waters that are poured down a steep place. For the transgression of Jacob is all this, and for the sins of the house of Israel  &#8230;  What are the high places of Judah? Are they not Jerusalem?&#8217; (Micah 1:3-5).</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">Source: Kevin Daly, <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="https://www.givengain.com/cgi-bin/giga.cgi?cmd=cause_dir_news_item&amp;cause_id=1507&amp;news_id=68301&amp;cat_id=529"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><em>When Will These Things Happen – Matthew</em> <em>24 and the Vindication of Messiah</em></span></a></span>. 2009.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Micah’s prophecy was fulfilled in 586 BC when Jerusalem fell to the Babylonian armies. We know that God didn’t physically and bodily come down at that time, but He did still “come down” in judgment in fulfillment of this prophecy. It’s this same apocalyptic language that Matthew uses to speak of another and more final judgment which was about to come once again upon Jerusalem. History tells us that it did come. Some readers may be surprised to know that Jonathan Edwards (1703-1758), who preached the famous sermon “Sinners in the Hands of An Angry God,” once made this statement in his work titled “Miscellany #1199”:</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">“Tis evident that when Christ speaks of his coming; his being revealed; his coming in his Kingdom; or his Kingdom’s coming; He has respect to his appearing in those great works of his Power Justice and Grace, which should be in the Destruction of Jerusalem and other extraordinary Providences which should attend it [So in Luke 17:20 – 18:8].”</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">The way that the Olivet Discourse is popularly approached today has Jesus effectively saying this to His disciples: “You guys have asked a very interesting question about when this temple will be destroyed, but let Me ignore your question and tell you instead about some events which will begin and end about 2000 years in the future.” Rather than being about <em>us</em>, and <em>our</em> generation, Jesus addressed the concerns of His disciples regarding their own generation.</p>
<h3 align="center"><span style="text-decoration:underline;">THE END OF THE AGE</span></h3>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Having now given considerable space to the question of Christ’s coming, we’ll give only brief space here to the disciples’ question about the end of the age. The King James Version used the expression “the end of the world” in Matthew 24:3, but most newer translations use the expression “<em>the end of the age</em>.” Clearly, Jesus tied the end of the age that they were speaking of to the time of His coming, which we have seen was promised to occur in their own generation.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Therefore, the disciples weren’t asking about the final days of this planet. Their question was about the end of the Old Covenant age. That age came to an end along with the destruction of the temple in 70 AD. This “end” was spoken of by Daniel and other Old Testament prophets. The book of Hebrews even speaks of the Old Covenant “<em>becoming obsolete and growing old…ready to vanish away</em>” (<span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews%208:13&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Hebrews 8:13</span></a></span>). It vanished along with the temple. We are now in what the New Testament frequently called “<em>the age to come</em>.” A great transition took place a long time ago, and we are privileged to live in the New Covenant age. The heavenly Jerusalem is a present reality for God’s people (<span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews%2012:18-28&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Hebrews 12:22-24</span></a></span>). Regarding &#8220;the end&#8221; spoken of in both Matthew and Daniel, Kevin Daly provides this helpful chart:</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;" align="left">you will hear of wars and rumours of wars &#8230; but <strong>the end</strong> is not yet</p>
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<p align="left">war will continue until <strong>the end</strong></p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">&#8220;The end&#8221; spoken of in Daniel&#8217;s prophecy was clearly to be the destruction of &#8220;the city and the sanctuary&#8221; (<span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Daniel%209:26&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Daniel 9:26</span></a></span>). We know as an indisputable fact of history that Jerusalem and the temple were destroyed in 70 AD. That brought about the end of an age, the Old Covenant age. It is popularly taught today that we are living in what the Bible calls &#8220;the last days,&#8221; and that these last days began on the Day of Pentecost because of <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%202:14-21&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Peter&#8217;s reference to Joel&#8217;s prophecy</span></a></span> about an outpouring in &#8220;the last days.&#8221; However, this cannot be true, because <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews%201:1-3&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Hebrews 1:1-3</span></a></span>, <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews%209:26&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Hebrews 9:26</span></a></span>, and <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=I%20Peter%201:18-20&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">I Peter 1:18-20</span></a></span> tell us explicitly that Jesus&#8217; incarnational ministry took place in the last days. Therefore, Jesus appeared and ministered in the last days of an age that had clearly begun quite some time before He appeared. That age still had not ended when Paul wrote his epistle to the Corinthian church, but it was drawing even closer to the end, for he told his readers that they were those &#8220;<em>on whom the end of the ages has come</em>&#8221; (<span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=I%20Corinthians%2010:11&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">I Corinthians 10:11</span></a></span>).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Rather than open this up further, or to try to defend this premise in greater depth here, I’d like to point to <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://kloposmasm.wordpress.com/2010/04/10/a-discussion-of-two-ages-this-age-and-the-age-to-come/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">an earlier post on this subject</span></a></span> which I believe you’ll find to be a good explanation of these things (<span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://kloposmasm.wordpress.com/2010/04/10/a-discussion-of-two-ages-this-age-and-the-age-to-come/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">HERE</span></a></span>). You’ll see that the New Testament placed Jesus’ ministry, death, etc. in “the last days” and at “the end of the age,” and that after Jesus’ ascension the apostles still spoke of their time in the same terms. Jerry William Bowers Jr. has also compiled <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://1-revelation.com/101TimeStatements.aspx"><span style="color:#0000ff;">a very informative article</span></a></span>, based on David Green’s 101 Time Statements showing that John the Baptist, Jesus, and the early church were not only consistent, but also correct, when they repeatedly stated that certain events were near, at hand, about to take place, etc. That article can be seen (<span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://1-revelation.com/101TimeStatements.aspx"><span style="color:#0000ff;">HERE</span></a></span>).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">In the next post, we will look at the beginning of Jesus’ reply to the disciples’ question about the signs which would lead to the destruction of the temple, His coming, and the end of the age. We will examine Matthew 24:4-14, Mark 13:5-13, and Luke 21:8-18 side-by-side.</p>
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<p><span style="text-decoration:underline;">A THOUGHT:</span> Do you find it interesting that John, in his gospel account, omits the Olivet Discourse entirely, even though he was no doubt present when Jesus spoke these things? One likely reason for this curious fact is that the book of Revelation, which he authored, actually functions as his exposition of the Olivet Discourse, though in much greater detail. Therefore, he felt no need to include the Olivet Discourse passage in his gospel account, especially if the book of John was written after the book of Revelation.</p>
<h3 align="center"><span style="text-decoration:underline;">QUOTES TO NOTE</span></h3>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Eusebius (314 AD):</span></strong> “If any one compares the words of our Saviour with the other accounts of the historian (Josephus) concerning the whole war, how can one fail to wonder, and to admit that the foreknowledge and the prophecy of our Saviour were truly divine and marvelously strange” (<em>Proof of the Gospel</em>, <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.preteristarchive.com/ChurchHistory/0325_eusebius_history.html"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Book III, Ch. VII</span></a></span>).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">John Wesley (1703-1791):</span></strong> “Josephus’ <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.preteristarchive.com/JewishWars/index.html"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><em>History of the Jewish War</em></span></a></span> is the best commentary on this chapter (Matt. 24). It is a wonderful instance of God’s providence, that he, an eyewitness, and one who lived and died a Jew, should, especially in so extraordinary a manner, be preserved, to transmit to us a collection of important facts, which so exactly illustrate this glorious prophecy, in almost every circumstance” (<em>Explanatory Notes Upon the New Testament, 1754).</em></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;"><a title="" href="#_ednref1"><span style="color:#0000ff;">[i]</span></a></span> John Wesley (1703-1791) is <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.preteristarchive.com/BibleStudies/Bible_NT/Matthew/matthew_10-23.html"><span style="color:#0000ff;">one of many in church history</span></a></span> who taught that Jesus was referring in Matt. 10:23 to a judgment coming in 70 AD in which He would “destroy their temple and nation” (John Wesley, <em>Explanatory Notes Upon the New Testament</em>, 1754).</p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;"><a title="" href="#_ednref2"><span style="color:#0000ff;">[ii]</span></a></span> John Wesley, again, is <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.preteristarchive.com/BibleStudies/Bible_NT/Matthew/matthew_16-28.html"><span style="color:#0000ff;">one of many in church history</span></a></span> who taught a 70 AD fulfillment of Matthew 16:27-28, saying, “For there is no way to escape the righteous judgment of God. And, as an emblem of this, there are some here who shall live to see the Messiah coming to set up His mediatorial kingdom with great power and glory, <span style="text-decoration:underline;">by the destruction of the temple, city, and polity of the Jews</span>” (John Wesley, Explanatory Notes Upon the New Testament, 1754). Some believe this is also identical to the prophecy Jesus gave in Revelation 22:12, revealing why John’s 1<sup>st</sup> century audience was to understand that He was about to come: “<em>Behold, I am coming soon, bringing My recompense with Me, to repay everyone for what he has done</em>.”</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><a title="" href="#_ednref3"><span style="color:#0000ff;">[iii]</span></a></span> In <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2022:1-14&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Matthew 22:1-14</span></a></span> we read the Parable of the Wedding Feast. In this parable, speaking of the kingdom of heaven (vs. 2), a king (God) was to prepare a wedding feast for his son (Jesus), but those who were originally invited (the Jewish nation) refused to come (vss. 3-5) and even killed the king’s servants who had invited them (v. 6). Therefore, these murderers were destroyed (cf. <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2023:29-38&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Matthew 23:29-38</span></a></span>; <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%2016:4-7&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Rev. 16:4-7</span></a></span>, <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%2017:6&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">17:6</span></a></span>, <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%2018:20&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">18:20</span></a></span>, <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%2018:24&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">18:24</span></a></span>), and their city was burned (cf. <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%2018:8-10&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Rev. 18:8-10</span></a></span>, <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%2018:17-18&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">18</span></a></span>; <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%2019:3&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">19:3</span></a></span>). This is precisely what we see having happened in <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://kloposmasm.wordpress.com/2010/04/10/2009/08/22/pp19-the-historical-events-leading-up-to-70-ad-part-3/"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Jerusalem’s destruction and burning in 70 AD</strong></span></a></span>. The invitation then goes out to others (Gentiles as well as Jews; vss. 9-10), but only those with proper wedding garments were allowed to remain (vss. 10-14; cf. <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%2019:8&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Rev. 19:8</span></a></span>). Those who lacked these garments remained in outer darkness and were not part of the chosen people of God (vss. 13-14; cf. <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%208:11-12&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Matt. 8:11-12</span></a></span>).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">In <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2023:29-38&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Matthew 23:29-38</span></a></span>, we see that in the 7<sup>th</sup> woe pronounced upon the Scribes and Pharisees, Jesus charges them with shedding the blood of all the prophets (vss. 29-31). He even says that they will kill, crucify, flog, and persecute others from town to town (verse 34). As a result, He says, they would be held responsible for all the shed blood from generations past up until their own generation. He concludes, “<em>Truly, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation</em>” (verse 36). He then lifts up a lament for Jerusalem, whose house, He said, was left to them desolate. This would naturally remind His listeners of <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Daniel%209:26&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Daniel 9:26</span></a></span>, where it was said that “<em>the city and the sanctuary</em>” would be destroyed, with desolations decreed. The expected timeframe for this judgment was “<em>this generation</em>” (Jesus’ first century audience).</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[(Thoughts on Ephesians 2:12) Paul’s letter to the Ephesians is a remarkable book, one that is full of wonderful expressions of truth. In the first three chapters Paul lays out, in glorious fashion, the riches of the grace we have in Christ. His adoration for the gospel just keeps spilling out, and he even gets [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=kloposmasm.com&amp;blog=8756029&amp;post=1571&amp;subd=kloposmasm&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 align="center">(Thoughts on Ephesians 2:12)</h2>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Paul’s letter to the Ephesians is a remarkable book, one that is full of wonderful expressions of truth. In the first three chapters Paul lays out, in glorious fashion, the riches of the grace we have in Christ. His adoration for the gospel just keeps spilling out, and he even gets long-winded (in a good way) as he does so. Take a look at some of his gospel-saturated, lengthy sentences which span several verses at a time (e.g. <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians%201:7-10&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">1:7-10</span></a></span>, <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians%201:15-21&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">1:15-21</span></a></span>, <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians%203:14-19&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">3:14-19</span></a></span>). Some of the most magnificent portrayals of the New Covenant are found in this book.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">With this in mind, it’s amazing to consider that today there is a popular teaching insisting that the New Covenant which Paul describes here in Ephesians and elsewhere is NOT the same New Covenant which was foreseen by the Old Testament prophets (e.g. <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jeremiah%2031:31-34&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Jeremiah 31:31-34</span></a></span>, <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel%2036:26-27&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Ezekiel 36:26-27</span></a></span>). This is despite the fact that the author of Hebrews quotes from Jeremiah’s prophecy and explicitly states (<span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews%208:6-13&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Hebrews 8:6-13</span></a></span>) that this New Covenant had been established in his own time (i.e. in the first century AD). The “problem” seems to be that Jeremiah and Ezekiel addressed their prophecies <span style="text-decoration:underline;">to “the house of Israel.”</span> Dispensationalism and Christian Zionism are notoriously unwilling to acknowledge that the Church IS spiritual Israel, and their proponents often have harsh words for those who do. Shortly we will see that Ephesians 2:12, being just one such example in the New Testament, does not allow their position to stand.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">[<span style="color:#ff0000;">Please bear with this brief explanation before we get back to looking at Ephesians. Prior to Progressive Dispensationalism taking root in western Christianity within the last few decades, Classic Dispensationalists like H.A. Ironside, Charles Ryrie, Dwight Pentecost, and John Walvoord claimed that the Old Testament never foresaw the coming of the Church age, and that God will one day bring an end to the Church age and resume His program with national/ethnic Israel. This was the teaching of John Nelson Darby, who founded this theological system in the 1830’s, and of C.I. Scofield, who published his famous reference Bible in 1909. These men and others also taught (or teach) that the New Covenant is reserved for a future millennium period! Consider the following statements regarding Jeremiah’s prophecy of a coming New Covenant:</span></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;"><span style="color:#ff0000;">[1] “This covenant must follow the return of Christ at the [yet future] second advent… This covenant will be realized in the [yet future] millennial age… <span style="text-decoration:underline;">the new covenant of Jeremiah 31:31-34 must and can be fulfilled only by the nation Israel and not by the Church</span>” (Dwight Pentecost, <em>Things to Come</em>, 1958).</span></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;"><span style="color:#ff0000;">[2] “…the new covenant is with Israel and the fulfillment [will be] in the millennial kingdom after the second coming of Christ… the new covenant as revealed in the Old Testament concerns Israel and requires fulfillment in the millennium kingdom” (John F. Walvoord, <em>The Millennial Kingdom</em>, 1959).</span></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;"><span style="color:#ff0000;">[3] “<span style="text-decoration:underline;">The Church, then, is not under the new covenant</span>…it is Israel which is God’s covenant people” (Harry Ironside, <em>Notes on the Prophecy of and Lamentations of Jeremiah</em>, 1906).</span></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><span style="color:#ff0000;">One proposed solution by more recent Progressive Dispensationalists is that there are two new covenants (!) in Scripture, one for the Church (now) and one for national/ethnic Israel (later). This belief seems to be true for those who would affirm that the Church presently lives in the New Covenant (and experiences the taking away of sin), but who also assert that Romans 11:26-27 (“<em>And in this way all Israel will be saved…and this will be My covenant with them when I take away their sins</em>”) will only be fulfilled in the future for ethnic Jews. This belief doesn’t stand up either, as we will see. For a much fuller treatment of the implications of this facet of Dispensationalist teaching, please see</span> <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://kloposmasm.wordpress.com/2010/03/11/revelation-20-amillennial-viewpoint-part-4/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">the first half of this post</span></a></span> <span style="color:#ff0000;">from our series on Revelation 20.</span>]</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Having expressed these thoughts, let’s now look at a very pivotal section in Ephesians 2, verses 11-22. I don’t want to take anything away from the very valuable things Paul expresses earlier <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians%202&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">in this chapter</span></a></span>, and in fact verse 11 begins with “therefore,” meaning that what Paul says next is based on what he has just said earlier. So here&#8217;s a quick summary of the first half of the chapter: Paul reminds the believers in Ephesus that they were once dead in their sins (verses 1-3), but that God in His mercy and love had made them alive in Christ (verses 4-5). They are now seated with God in Christ in heavenly places (verses 6-7). It was not by any works of their own that they were saved, but only by grace through faith. Their salvation was a gift from God, and they were created anew for the purpose of walking in good works (verses 8-10). With this as context, here’s what Paul says in verses 11-22:</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;"><strong><sup>11</sup></strong>Therefore remember that at one time you Gentiles in the flesh, called &#8220;the uncircumcision&#8221; by what is called the circumcision, which is made in the flesh by hands— <strong><sup>12</sup></strong><strong>remember that you were at that time separated from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers to the covenants of promise</strong>, having no hope and without God in the world. <strong><sup>13</sup></strong>But now in Christ Jesus you who once werefar off have been brought near by the blood of Christ. <strong><sup>14</sup></strong>For He himself is our peace, who has made us both one and has broken down in His flesh the dividing wall of hostility <strong><sup>15</sup></strong>by abolishing the law of commandments expressed in ordinances, that He might create in himself one new man in place of the two, so making peace, <strong><sup>16</sup></strong>and might reconcile us both to God in one body through the cross, thereby killing the hostility. <strong><sup>17</sup></strong>And He came and preached peace to you who were far off and peace to those who were near. <strong><sup>18</sup></strong>Forthrough Him we both have access in one Spirit to the Father. <strong><sup>19</sup></strong><strong>So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God</strong>, <strong><sup>20</sup></strong> built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone, <strong><sup>21</sup></strong> in whom the whole structure, being joined together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord. <strong><sup>22</sup></strong>In Him you also are being built together into a dwelling place for God by the Spirit.</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">It would certainly be profitable to break this passage down verse-by-verse, and there are so many rich truths here, but I’d like to mainly zero in on verse 12 which is highlighted above. First, we should note that Paul is specifically addressing Gentile believers (verse 11), that is, non-Jewish followers of Christ. <strong>One of his reminders to them is that they were once “<em><span style="text-decoration:underline;">alienated</span> from the commonwealth of Israel</em>.” By speaking this way, Paul clearly indicates that <span style="text-decoration:underline;">they are now part of</span> “the commonwealth of Israel.”</strong></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong>There is simply no getting around the idea that Gentile (non-Jewish) believers are part of God’s people, Israel, here in Ephesians 2:12.</strong></span><strong> </strong>And make no mistake about it, Jewish <span style="text-decoration:underline;">believers</span> are part of this same covenant people of God, but no more so and no less so: “<em>For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile—the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on Him</em>” (Romans 10:12); “<em>There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus</em>” (Galatians 3:28). There are no spiritual blessings which are available for males but not for females, nor are there any spiritual blessings which are available for Jews but not for non-Jews. Does Scripture leave us any room to believe that a future age will come along and change this reality? No, it does not.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><strong>In Ephesians 2:12 Paul also reminds His believing Gentile audience that they were once “<em><span style="text-decoration:underline;">strangers</span> to the covenants of promise</em>.”</strong> <strong>Again, by speaking this way, Paul clearly indicates that <span style="text-decoration:underline;">they are now recipients of</span> “<em>the covenants of promise</em>” which were made to Israel.</strong> In the next chapter, Paul explicitly defines the mystery of Christ (which had been kept hidden in generations past) as the joining together of Jewish and non-Jewish believers in the partaking of the promise in Christ through the gospel: “<em>This mystery is that the Gentiles are fellow heirs, members of the same body, and partakers of the promise in Christ Jesus through the gospel</em>” (Eph. 3:6). In <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Galatians%203&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Galatians 3</span></a></span> Paul likewise declares that all the promises were made to Abraham and his offspring. He then defines Abraham’s “offspring,” contrary to what many might expect, as singularly Christ (Gal. 3:16). He finally adds that those who belong to Christ—with zero regard for ethnicity, gender, or status (Gal. 3:28)—are heirs of those promises (Gal. 3:29). So Paul says here in Ephesians 2 exactly what he also says in Galatians 3.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">With these things established, can it be possible that any Old Testament covenants or promises are yet to be fulfilled for ethnic Jews only? Can Jeremiah 31:31-34 and Ezekiel 36:26-27 (which promised a coming New Covenant) be awaiting a fulfillment which Gentile believers will have no part in? No. Such an idea does great violence to all that Paul argues in Galatians, Ephesians, and elsewhere. Those who are still looking for such a covenant to arrive are about 2000 years too late, and far too narrow in their view of to whom this covenant belongs. The New Covenant is already here, <strong>and the heavenly Jerusalem is already a reality</strong> for God’s people (<span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews%2012:18-28&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Hebrews 12:22-24</span></a></span>).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">I also highlighted Ephesians 2:19 because Paul refers to the Church as &#8220;<em>the household of God</em>,&#8221; very similar to the way he calls the Church &#8220;<em>the household of faith</em>&#8221; in <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Galatians%206:10&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Galatians 6:10</span></a></span>. It would seem that these phrases are a New Testament equivalent to the oft-used expression in the Old Testament, &#8220;<em>the household of Israel</em>,&#8221; used by both Jeremiah and Ezekiel as we have seen. As mentioned near the beginning of this post, it seems that Dispensationalists and Christian Zionists tend to trip up over the Old Testament phrase, “<em>the household of Israel</em>,” because they are somehow convinced that the promises made to ancient Israel must only be fulfilled among their physical descendants.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">However, we must let Scripture interpret Scripture. First, how often did Jesus and the apostles make the point that being able to physically trace one’s self to Abraham means nothing? Observe <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%208:31-47&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">what Jesus said in John 8</span></a></span> to the Jews of His day who appealed to Abraham as their father, and observe whom Jesus said was their father instead. Observe what Paul says in Romans 9:6-8, “…<em>For not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel, and not all are children of Abraham because they are his offspring… This means that it is not the children of the flesh who are the children of God, but the children of the promise are counted as offspring</em>.” Here Paul equates being a part of Israel with being a child of God. In this New Covenant age, then, can you be a child of God and not be a part of Israel? (Of course, I’m not referring to that nation in the Middle East which happens to bear this same name. By “Israel,” I mean God’s covenant people.) In Romans 2:28-29, Paul further says that “<em>no one is a Jew who is merely one outwardly…a Jew is one inwardly, and circumcision is a matter of the heart</em>…” In <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Galatians%206:15-16&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Galatians 6:15-16</span></a></span>, Paul declares that only a new creation counts for anything, and then pronounces peace and mercy upon “<em>the Israel of God</em>.” If, despite the evidence above, you are one of the many who believe that Paul’s use of this phrase, &#8220;the Israel of God,&#8221; must refer only to Jewish believers, please examine <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.bible-researcher.com/gal6-16.html"><span style="color:#0000ff;">this very well-written and informative article</span></a></span> by Michael Marlowe.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Secondly, an honest appraisal of the New Testament will show that the inspired writers of the NT clearly apply many specific promises once made to ancient Israel to the Church, the body of Christ. Shall we rebuke them for promoting the allegedly false teachings of “replacement theology”? As we have seen above, the NT authors also declare that the Church is no longer alienated from ANY of the promises and covenants, because they are recipients of ALL of them. They are all found in Christ, but they are not to be found outside of Christ. Again, Jews are not left out, for a remnant from among them would call out to the Lord and be saved (they have done so throughout the last 2000 years). Paul makes this clear (see <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%2011:1-6&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Romans 11:1-6</span></a></span>, where he uses himself as an example).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Let’s look again at what Ephesians 2:12 says: “<strong>[R]emember that you were at that time separated from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers to the covenants of promise.” </strong>What is “the commonwealth of Israel”? What is it not? As we consider how we are not alienated from this entity, if we try to replace this phrase with “national Israel” or “ethnic Jews,” we’ll see that this doesn’t work. If you are a non-Jew (ethnically speaking), can you say that because of Christ you are now fully integrated into the political nation of Israel? Or can you say that you are very much a part of the worldwide ethnic Jewish community? No, but I believe you’ll find that <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://bible.cc/ephesians/2-12.htm"><span style="color:#0000ff;">this explanation given by Albert Barnes</span></a></span> in 1834 makes sense:</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">“<em>Being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel</em> &#8211; …This means more than that they were not Jews. It means that they were strangers to that ‘polity’ …or arrangement by which the worship of the true God had been kept up in the world, and of course were strangers to the true religion. The arrangements for the public worship of Yahweh were made among the Jews. They had his law, his temple, his sabbaths, and the ordinances of his religion; see the notes at <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://bible.cc/romans/3-2.htm"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Romans 3:2</span></a></span>… The word rendered here as ‘commonwealth’ &#8211; πολιτεία politeia &#8211; means properly ‘citizenship,’ or ‘the right of citizenship,’ and then ‘a community,’ or ‘state.’ It means here ‘that arrangement or organization by which the worship of the true God was maintained.’”</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">Indeed, Paul says this of his own “<em>kinsmen according to the flesh</em>” (Romans 9:3),</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">“<em>They are Israelites, and to them belong the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship, and the promises. To them belong the patriarchs, and from their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ who is God over all, blessed forever. Amen</em>” (Romans 9:4-5).</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">Paul, who agonized over his own people so much that he could have wished himself “accursed and cut off from Christ” (verse 3) for their sake, yet affirms to the Gentile believers in Ephesus that they were present heirs of all the promises and covenants which were articulated to the commonwealth of Israel in times past. All alienation had ceased. It hasn’t resumed since then, it hasn’t resumed in our day, and it won’t resume in the future. It&#8217;s gone because of the work of the cross, and that alienation is gone forever. Please don’t let anyone tell you otherwise. If you are a follower of Christ, it doesn’t matter what your ethnic background is. You are a full-fledged member of the commonwealth of Israel, and all of God&#8217;s promises are yours through Jesus Christ.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[(A Study of Matthew 6:25-34) This blog was started back in August 2009 when our Bible study group decided to post our studies on the book of Revelation, for the purpose of being able to reference them long-term and also to be a blessing to others. Since completing our study of Revelation, the blog has [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=kloposmasm.com&amp;blog=8756029&amp;post=1563&amp;subd=kloposmasm&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p align="center">(A Study of Matthew 6:25-34)</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">This blog was started back in August 2009 when our Bible study group decided to post our studies on the book of Revelation, for the purpose of being able to reference them long-term and also to be a blessing to others. Since completing our study of Revelation, the blog has expanded somewhat, although we are no longer posting our weekly Bible studies online. We’ve gone on to study several New Testament epistles, and we are now in Matthew.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">I’d like to make an exception by looking at a portion from Matthew 6 which we studied on Wednesday night (April 13th). This chapter is at the heart of Jesus’ most famous message, the Sermon on the Mount. In this portion, Jesus addresses the subject of anxiety. This text really spoke to my soul because for the last six months (exactly 6 months, actually) I’ve had far more reason to be anxious, worried, hurt, fearful, angry, etc. than I have at any other time in my life. Most who read this will have no idea what’s going on in my life, and that’s OK – although if this is enough information to compel you to pray I won’t turn you down. In any case, I believe we will see that as Jesus brings this subject to a conclusion, He not only urges us to prioritize His kingdom above all else, but He sets this forth as a perfect antidote to the anxiety which would like to take a prominent place in our lives. Let’s look at what He has to say, and feel free to share your own thoughts on how His words speak to you in the comment section below.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Verse 25:</span></strong> <span style="color:#ff0000;">“<em>Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink; or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothes</em>?”</span></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The word “therefore” refers back to the previous section on money, where Jesus gives this sober warning about attempting to maintain a divided loyalty: “<em>No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money</em>.” If the pursuit of wealth, and the laying up of perishable earthly treasures (verse 19), can lead to idolatry and distraction in our lives, so can worry and anxiety over the things we want and need in life.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">What we eat, drink, and wear are some of the basics of life, but these decisions can cause anxiety if we let them. This cuts to the heart of where our trust lies. Can we trust God for basic provision? If not, what does this say about our capacity to trust Him when life’s circumstances become most unbearable? We can walk in our divinely-ordained callings in life all the more if we’re not weighed down by such concerns.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Verse 26:</span></strong> <span style="color:#ff0000;">“<em>Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they</em>?”</span></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Jesus poses this as a question, but clearly we are meant to understand that we <strong>are</strong> of more value in His sight than the birds. If God faithfully takes care of and provides for them, how much more will He do so for His people? This is not, of course, an excuse to intentionally avoid work.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Verse 27:</span></strong> <span style="color:#ff0000;">“<em>Can any one of you by worrying add a single hour to your life</em>?”</span></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Jesus speaks to the folly of being filled with worry, which likely springs from a lack of trust. Increased anxiety can actually shorten our lives, or at least lessen the quality of life. We also often worry about negative outcomes which don’t materialize. Such worry ends up being a complete waste of our energy, time, and focus. Any and all worry works to keep us from the more important things in life. Trusting in God rather than ourselves requires humility.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Verses 28-30:</span></strong> <span style="color:#ff0000;">“<em>And why do you worry about clothes? See how the flowers of the field grow. They do not labor or spin.</em><em> </em><em>Yet I tell you that not even Solomon in all his splendor was dressed like one of these.</em><em> </em><em>If that is how God clothes the grass of the field, which is here today and tomorrow is thrown into the fire, will He not much more clothe you—you of little faith</em>?”</span></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">These verses don’t appear to speak directly to the issue of vanity or showing off to others, but rather a person’s worry about being able to afford the basic clothes that they or their family members might need. Just as the birds don’t obtain their provision through their own striving, the flowers of the field don’t obtain their beauty through their own toil. God takes care of them, and they <strong>need </strong>God to take care of them. It would seem that the materially rich don’t need to worry about being able to afford clothing (or food/drinks/other basics), but they might miss out on the blessings of being in a position where one <strong>needs</strong> to depend on God in faith for regular provision.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Verses 31:32:</span></strong> <span style="color:#ff0000;">“<em>So do not worry, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’</em><em> </em><em>For the pagans run after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them</em>.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">When we fret, especially about basic needs, we begin to behave as if we don’t belong to God and as if we don’t need Him. Unbelievers lack a regard for God, and one of the ways this disregard is demonstrated is through trusting in themselves rather than in Him. As those who do know God, there is no reason why we should mirror those who don’t by the way that we carry on in our everyday lives. God’s people should be distinct from the ways of the world. At the same time, God acknowledges that we do need these basic things.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Verse 33:</span> <span style="color:#ff0000;">“</span></strong><span style="color:#ff0000;"><em>But seek first His kingdom and His righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well</em>.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The key to avoiding anxiety is to prioritize the kingdom of God. <strong>It’s more about what we pursue</strong> (“the kingdom of God and His righteousness”) <strong>than what we avoid</strong> (anxiety over the basics of life). Being that this is true concerning anxiety over what is basic, it’s also true when it comes to heavier issues which may appear in our lives. Even the most devastating of circumstances can fade as concerns if we are in passionate pursuit of His kingdom. Losses that we may suffer during our short time on this earth need not strike us with such devastating force if we hold loosely to what is of this world, and we hold tightly to God’s kingdom, which cannot be shaken (Hebrews 12:18-28, esp. vss. 27-28).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">From verses 9-10 we see that God’s kingdom involves His honor and fame, His reign, and His will, along with a desire that these aspects of His kingdom become true where we live just as they are already true in heaven. We’re promised that the very things we’re urged not to fret over (provision of food, drinks, clothing, and the like) will come naturally to us when we prioritize God’s kingdom and His righteousness. At this point I’ll ask, but not answer, a somewhat difficult question: How do we reconcile this promise with the fact that there <strong>are</strong> faithful believers who pursue God’s kingdom and His righteousness, who also endure significant stretches of their lives lacking food and other basic comforts (perhaps or perhaps not as a result of persecution)?</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Verse 34:</span></strong> <span style="color:#ff0000;">“<em>Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own</em>.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">What does it mean to say that “tomorrow will be anxious for itself”? As mentioned already, sometimes when we anticipate troubles, they don’t materialize. Even if that trouble does materialize, worrying about it in advance won’t be profitable. Each day God is more than able to provide the grace that we need for what we will face that day.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The book of Lamentations was written at an extremely low point in Israel’s history, during the aftermath of Babylon’s destructive invasion of Israel in 586 BC. In the midst of great tragedy, sorrow, and suffering, the author writes, “<em>The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; His mercies never come to an end; <strong>they are new every morning</strong>; great is Your faithfulness. ‘The Lord is my portion,’ says my soul, ‘therefore I will hope in Him</em>’” (Lam. 3:22-24).</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align:justify;">Yesterday I came across a fantastic story at <a href="http://truthspeaker.wordpress.com/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Truthspeaker&#8217;s Blog</span></a><span style="color:#0000ff;"> <span style="color:#000000;">about a Swedish missionary couple who had a seemingly fruitless ministry to Africa nearly 100 years ago</span></span>. Crying is something I don&#8217;t do often enough, but this story made me cry. &#8220;Truthspeaker&#8221; introduced the story in this way:</p>
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<div style="text-align:justify;">The following story is true and encourages us that God has a purpose for everything He allows in our lives.   We are not to despise the day of small beginnings! The full story can be found in “<em>Aggie</em>; A <em>Girl Without a Country</em>” (previously published under the title, &#8220;One Witness&#8221;), written by <em>Aggie</em> Hurst.</div>
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<div>What follows is <strong><a href="http://truthspeaker.wordpress.com/2011/02/03/david-and-svea-flood/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">a story</span></a></strong> that is both heartbreaking and inspiring at the same time. It&#8217;s a tremendous testimony of what God can do &#8220;behind the scenes,&#8221; things of which we are not always aware:</div>
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<blockquote><p>In 1921, a missionary couple named David and Svea Flood went with their two-year-old son David, from Sweden to the heart of Africa—to what was then called the Belgian Congo. They met up with another young Scandinavian couple, the Ericksons, and the four of them sought God for direction. In those days of much tenderness and devotion and sacrifice, they felt led of the Lord to go out from the main mission station and take the gospel to a remote area.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">This was a huge step of faith. At the remote village of N’dolera they were rebuffed by the chief, who would not let them enter his village for fear of alienating the local gods. The two couples opted to go half a mile up the slope and build their own mud huts.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">They prayed for a spiritual breakthrough, but there was none. Their only contact with the villagers was a young boy, who was allowed to sell them chickens and eggs twice a week. Svea Flood — a tiny woman missionary only four feet, eight inches tall, decided that if this was the only African she could talk to, she would try to lead the boy to Jesus. And in fact, after many weeks of loving and witnessing to him, he trusted Christ as his Savior.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">But there were no other encouragements. Meanwhile, malaria continued to strike one member of the little band after another. In time the Ericksons decided they had had enough suffering and left to return to the central mission station. David and Svea Flood remained near N’dolera to go on alone.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Then, of all things, Svea found herself pregnant in the middle of the primitive wilderness. When the time came for her to give birth (1923), the village chief softened enough to allow a midwife to help her. A little girl was born, whom they named Aina (A-ee-nah).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The delivery, however, was exhausting, and Svea Flood was already weak from bouts of malaria. The birth process was a heavy blow to her stamina. After seventeen desperate days of prayer and struggle, she died.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Inside David Flood, something snapped in that moment. His heart full of bitterness, he dug a crude grave, buried his twenty-seven-year-old wife and took his children back down the mountain to the mission station. Giving his newborn daughter to the Ericksons, he said, “I’m going back to Sweden. I’ve lost my wife, and I can’t take care of this baby. God has ruined my life.” With two year old David, he headed for the coast, rejecting not only his calling, but God himself.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Within eight months both the Ericksons were stricken with a mysterious illness (some believe they were poisoned by a local chief who hated the missionaries) and died within days of each other. The nine month old baby Aina was given to an American missionary couple named Berg, who adjusted her Swedish name to “Aggie” and eventually brought her back to the United States at age three.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The Bergs loved little Aggie but were afraid that if they tried to return to Africa, some legal obstacle might separate her from them since they had at that time, been unable to legally adopt her. So they decided to stay in the United States and switch from missionary work to pastoral ministry. And that is how Aggie grew up in South Dakota. As a young woman, she attended North Central Bible college in Minneapolis. There she met and married a young preacher named Dewey Hurst.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Years passed. The Hursts enjoyed a fruitful ministry. Aggie gave birth first to a daughter, then a son. In time her husband became president of a Christian college in the Seattle area, and Aggie was intrigued to find so much Scandinavian heritage there.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">One day around 1963, a Swedish religious magazine appeared in her mailbox. She had no idea who sent it, and of course she couldn’t read the words. But as she turned the pages, all of a sudden a photo stopped her cold. There in a primitive setting in the heart of Africa was a grave with a white cross and on the cross was her mother’s name, SVEA FLOOD.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Aggie jumped in her car and drove straight to a college faculty member who, she knew, could translate the article. “What does this say?” she asked.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The instructor translated the story:</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">It tells about missionaries who went to N’dolera in the heart of the Belgian Congo in 1921… the birth of a white baby girl… the death of the young missionary mother… the one little African boy who had been led to Christ… and how, after the all whites had left, the little African boy grew up and persuaded the chief to let him build a school in the village.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The article told how that gradually the now grown up boy won all his students to Christ… the children led their parents to Christ… even the chief had become a Christian. Today (1963) there were six hundred Christian believers in that one village.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Because of the willingness of David and Svea Flood to answer God’s call to Africa, because they endured so much but were still faithful to witness and lead one little boy to trust Jesus, God had saved six hundred people. And the little boy, as a grown man, became head of the Pentacostal Church and leader of 110,000 Christians in Zaire (formerly the Belgian Congo).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">At the time Svea Flood died, it appeared, to human reason, that God had led the young couple to Africa, only to desert them in their time of deepest need. It would be forty years before God’s amazing grace and His real plan for the village of N’dolera would be known.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">For Rev. Dewey and Aggie Hurst’s twenty-fifth wedding anniversary, the college presented them with the gift of a vacation to Sweden. There Aggie met her biological father. An old man now, David Flood had remarried, fathered four more children, and generally dissipated his life with alcohol. He had recently suffered a stroke. Still bitter, he had one rule in his family: “Never mention the name of God because God took everything from me.”</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">After an emotional reunion with her half brothers and half sister, Aggie brought up the subject of seeing her father. The others hesitated. “You can talk to him,” they replied, “even though he’s very ill now. But you need to know that whenever he hears the name of God, he flies into a rage.”</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Aggie could not be deterred. She walked into the squalid apartment, with liquor bottles everywhere, and approached the seventy-three-year-old man lying in a rumpled bed.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">“Papa?” she said tentatively.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">He turned and began to cry. “Aina,” he said, “I never meant to give you away.”</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">“It’s all right Papa,” she replied, taking him gently in her arms. “God took care of me.”</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The man instantly stiffened. The tears stopped.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">“God forgot all of us. Our lives have been like this because of Him.” He turned his face back to the wall.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Aggie stroked his face and then continued, undaunted.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">“Papa, I’ve got a little story to tell you, and it’s a true one.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">You didn’t go to Africa in vain. Mama didn’t die in vain.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The little boy you both won to the Lord grew up to win that whole village to Jesus Christ. The one seed you planted just kept growing and growing. Today (about 1964) there are six hundred African people serving the Lord because you and Momma were faithful to the call of God on your life.”</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">“Papa, Jesus loves you. He has never hated you.”</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The old man turned back to look into his daughter’s eyes. His body relaxed. He began to talk. And by the end of the afternoon, he had come back to the God he had resented for so many decades.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Over the next few days, father and daughter enjoyed warm moments together. Aggie and her husband soon had to return to America—and within a few weeks, David Flood had gone into eternity.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">A few years later, the Hursts were attending a high-level evangelism conference in London, England, where a report was given from the nation of Zaire (the former Belgian Congo). The superintendent of the national church, representing some 110,000 baptized believers, spoke eloquently of the gospel’s spread in his nation. Aggie could not help going up afterward to ask him if he had ever heard of David and Svea Flood. “I am their daughter.”</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The man began to weep. “Yes, madam,” the man replied in French, his words then being translated into English.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">“It was Svea Flood who led me to Jesus Christ. I was the boy who brought food to your parents before you were born. In fact, to this day your mother’s grave and her memory are honored by all of us.”</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">He embraced her in a long, sobbing hug. Then he continued, “You must come to Africa to see, because your mother is the most famous person in our history.”</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">In time that is exactly what Aggie Hurst and her husband did. They were welcomed by cheering throngs of villagers. She even met the man who so many years before, when she was less than a month old, had been hired by her father to carry her down the mountain in a soft bark hammock.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The most dramatic moment, of course, was when the pastor escorted Aggie to see her mother’s grave, marked with a white cross, for herself. She knelt in the soil of Africa, the place of her birth, to pray and give thanks. Later that day, in the church service, the pastor read from John 12:24:</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">“I tell you the truth, unless a kernel of wheat falls to the ground and dies, it remains only a single seed. But if it dies, it produces many seeds.”</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">He then followed with Psalm 126:5: “They who sow in tears shall reap in joy.”</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">(An excerpt from Aggie Hurst, <em>Aggie: The Inspiring Story of A Girl Without A Country</em> [Springfield, MO: Gospel Publishing House, 1986].)</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">Source: <a href="http://truthspeaker.wordpress.com/2011/02/03/david-and-svea-flood/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">http://truthspeaker.wordpress.com/2011/02/03/david-and-svea-flood/</span></a></p>
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		<title>Dismembering an Idol (The Story of Zacchaeus)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Maarschalk</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[by Adam Maarschalk (December 7, 2010) A few months ago I began receiving monthly ministry updates from Desiring God Ministries (DGM), a ministry under the oversight of Pastor John Piper of Bethlehem Baptist Church here in Minneapolis. I thought the write-up in November was especially good and valuable, and I’d like to share it here. [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=kloposmasm.com&amp;blog=8756029&amp;post=1508&amp;subd=kloposmasm&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align:center;">by Adam Maarschalk (December 7, 2010)</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">A few months ago I began receiving monthly ministry updates from Desiring God Ministries (DGM), a ministry under the oversight of Pastor John Piper of Bethlehem Baptist Church here in Minneapolis. I thought <a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/blog/posts/dismembering-an-idol"><span style="color:#0000ff;">the write-up in November</span></a> was especially good and valuable, and I’d like to share it here. It was written by Jon Bloom, the Executive Director of DGM. Bloom tells the story of Zacchaeus’ change of heart and fruit-bearing repentance in captivating form:</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">In Luke 19, Zacchaeus the tax collector was converted. He vowed to give back fourfold to anyone he had defrauded. Imagine a conversation he might have had when returning the money.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">*          *          *</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">&#8220;Dad, there&#8217;s a man at the door. He said his name is Zacchaeus.&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">&#8220;Zacchaeus!&#8221; Judah&#8217;s face flushed with sudden anger. &#8220;What does <em>he</em> want?&#8221; Under his breath he muttered, &#8220;The little vermin.&#8221; His young daughter didn&#8217;t need to hear that.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">&#8220;I don&#8217;t know.&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">Judah moved brusquely past his daughter, clenching his jaw. If the little weasel even hints at more money, I swear… a thunderstorm of violent thoughts broke in his mind.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">When he saw Zacchaeus he exploded, &#8220;WHAT?&#8221; Zacchaeus reeled slightly from the verbal blow.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">&#8220;I&#8217;m here to return something to you, Judah.&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">&#8220;What do you mean?&#8221; The words sounded more like &#8220;Get out of my sight!&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">Zacchaeus held out a small moneybag. Judah was suspiciously confused. This man had robbed half of Jericho collecting taxes for Tiberius. No one was more conniving and slippery with words. Fearing some kind of set-up, Judah didn&#8217;t move.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">&#8220;What are you doing, Zacchaeus?&#8221; The cynicism hissed through Judah&#8217;s teeth.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">&#8220;I&#8217;m dismembering my idol.&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">Judah&#8217;s fiery glare turned to stony bewilderment. &#8220;What are you talking about?&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">&#8220;Judah, I know how strange this must sound. And you have every reason not to trust me. I&#8217;m here because I&#8217;ve defrauded you. I&#8217;ve charged you more taxes than Rome required and kept them for my wicked little self. I know that you and everyone else knows that. But now I&#8217;ve come to ask your forgiveness for sinning against you like that, and to make restitution. That&#8217;s what&#8217;s in this bag.&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">Zacchaeus held it out again. This time Judah tentatively took it. He looked inside. &#8220;There&#8217;s a lot in here. It&#8217;s got to be more than you overcharged me.&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">&#8220;Yes. It&#8217;s four times what I overcharged you. I&#8217;ve got all the records, you know.&#8221; Zacchaeus smiled.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">&#8220;Why are you giving me four times what you owe me?&#8221; Judah&#8217;s distrust was not dispelled.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">&#8220;I&#8217;m keeping a vow. I promised Jesus that I would repay everyone I defrauded fourfold.&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">&#8220;You mean the Rabbi Jesus? You know him?&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">&#8220;I do now. He&#8217;s in town, as you know. And the other day I wanted to get a glimpse of him. But being, ah, short-legged, I figured the only way I&#8217;d see him was from a tree! Wouldn&#8217;t you know, as Jesus passes by he stops, looks up at silly me in the sycamore and says, ‘Zacchaeus, hurry and come down, for I must stay at your house today.&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">Judah gave him a puzzled look.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">Zacchaeus said, &#8220;I know, I know! I was as shocked as anyone! How did he know my name, right? So Jesus and his disciples come to my house and in a matter of minutes my world falls apart and comes together.&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">&#8220;Falls apart and comes together.&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">&#8220;Judah, when I was a boy I was in awe of what I thought money did for people. It seemed to open all the doors to power and pleasure. So I vowed to myself that whatever it took I was going to be rich. And I kept that vow. Back then I had no idea how empty being rich would be. But up till two days ago, I figured it was still better than the alternative.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">&#8220;But as I sat in my home with Jesus and his disciples, who have <em>nothing</em>, nothing but <em>God</em>—Judah, I&#8217;ve never seen happier people in my life! And as Jesus spoke, it was like his words were alive. My heart burned with a longing for God I had never felt before! And a deep shame that I traded him for <em>money</em>.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">&#8220;Then it hit me like a cedar beam: <em>I&#8217;m poor, not rich!</em> They had God; I had a dead idol: money. They were rich; I was no more than a beggar. They were free. But the only doors money ever opened for me led to dungeons. My world, as I had known it, fell apart.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">&#8220;And there sat Jesus, looking at me as if he could read me like a scroll. Everything in me just wanted to follow him. I wanted the forgiveness and salvation he&#8217;s been preaching about. For the first time in my life I wanted God more than… <em>anything</em>! Suddenly, it was like life never made more sense. Before I knew it I was on my feet vowing in front of everyone that, well, that I would dismember my idol.&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">&#8220;Give away your money.&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">&#8220;Right. Well, some of it is <em>your</em> money.&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">This time Judah smiled.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">Later, Judah&#8217;s wife found him staring at a small moneybag on the table.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">&#8220;What&#8217;s that?&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">&#8220;A tax refund.&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">&#8220;A what?</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">&#8220;I think we need to go hear Rabbi Jesus.&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">&#8220;Rabbi Jesus? Why?&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">&#8220;I think we&#8217;re poor.&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">*          *          *</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">Some of our idols need to be dismembered for us to be free of them. Jesus knows what they are and how to help us see them. It may feel like we are losing our world to lose them. That&#8217;s okay. Jesus said, &#8220;whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will find it&#8221; (<a href="http://biblia.com/bible/esv/Matthew%2016.25" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Matthew 16:25</span></a>).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">&#8220;He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose&#8221; (<a href="http://www.wheaton.edu/bgc/archives/faq/20.htm"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Jim Elliot</span></a>, October 28, 1949).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Source: <a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/blog/posts/dismembering-an-idol"><span style="color:#0000ff;">http://www.desiringgod.org/blog/posts/dismembering-an-idol</span></a></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Reading this, I’m also reminded of Jesus’ sobering and hard-hitting words to the Church in Laodicea:</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">“<em>For you say, ‘I am rich, I have prospered, and I need nothing,’ not realizing that you are wretched, pitiable, poor, blind, and naked. I counsel you to buy from Me gold refined by fire, so that you may be rich, and white garments so that you may clothe yourself and the shame of your nakedness may not be seen, and salve to anoint your eyes, so that you may see. Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline, so be zealous and repent</em>” (Revelation 3:17-19).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">[For some historical background on this passage, feel free to see <a href="http://kloposmasm.wordpress.com/2009/08/27/revelation-3-study/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">our study of Revelation 3 here</span></a>, and scroll down about halfway to the section on Laodicia.] To one degree or another, we are all in need of being able to spiritually see more clearly. May pride and self-righteousness not stand in the way and give us the distorted idea that we are in need of nothing. May we also recognize and welcome His discipline, for it’s a mark of His love toward us. Here you can watch and listen to a group of youth (from the Shepherd of the Valley Lutheran Church in Beaverton, Oregon) singing the classic song “The Blind Man”:</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://kloposmasm.com/2010/12/07/dismembering-an-idol-the-story-of-zacchaeus/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/yE-Fgprk5vA/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">I also appreciate this version of the same song sung by an Indian brother living in the UK:</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://kloposmasm.com/2010/12/07/dismembering-an-idol-the-story-of-zacchaeus/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/xenrWW4DuwU/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">In the mail-out version of Jon Bloom’s letter, he appropriately closed with these words:</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">“Our featured sermon for November is titled, ‘The Radical Cost of Following Jesus.’ In it John Piper says, ‘Jesus knows everyone’s idol. Jesus knows perfectly what is competing in your heart with affection for Him.’ This is really good news. Because when Jesus asks us to dismember our idols, He’s really offering us fullness of joy and pleasures forever (Psalm 16:11).</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Psalm 33:12 and God’s Chosen Nation by Adam Maarschalk (December 3, 2010) Psalm 33:12 is a familiar verse to many people. In the United States, it’s often cited in patriotic sermons or at political events along with a declaration that the US is a Christian nation. This is how the verse reads (see here for [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=kloposmasm.com&amp;blog=8756029&amp;post=1489&amp;subd=kloposmasm&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p style="text-align:center;">by Adam Maarschalk (December 3, 2010)</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Psalm 33:12 is a familiar verse to many people. In the United States, it’s often cited in patriotic sermons or at political events along with a declaration that the US is a Christian nation. This is how the verse reads (<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm%2033&amp;version=ESV"><span style="color:#0000ff;">see here</span></a> for its context):</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><strong>“<em>Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord, the people whom He has chosen as His heritage</em>!” </strong></p>
<p>When studying Scripture, it’s important to consider the original intent of the author—as he was inspired by the Holy Spirit—and who was in his original audience (a study method known as “exegesis”). It’s also good to then consider the meaning and application of a given text to one’s own life and time (known as “hermeneutics”). With this in mind, and given your overall knowledge of Scripture, which of these combinations do you believe to be correct for Psalm 33:12?</p>
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<td width="288" valign="top"><strong>ORIGINAL AUDIENCE:</strong></td>
<td width="414" valign="top"><strong>PRESENTLY APPLIED TO:</strong></td>
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<td width="288" valign="top">Ancient Israel</td>
<td width="414" valign="top">The modern-day nation of Israel   and/or the Jewish people</td>
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<td width="288" valign="top">Ancient Israel</td>
<td width="414" valign="top">The nation of Israel, in the   future</td>
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<td width="288" valign="top">Ancient Israel</td>
<td width="414" valign="top">The United States of America,   at least ideally</td>
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<td width="288" valign="top">Ancient Israel</td>
<td width="414" valign="top">The Church, the body of Christ</td>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">I will assume that there is no disagreement regarding the original audience of this Psalm of David, but if there is please do feel free to express your understanding in the Comments section below. Were you surprised to see option #2 listed above? I was certainly surprised the other day when I saw that a fairly well-known pastor and author proposed this as the primary meaning of Psalm 33:12. This is what prompted me to write this post actually. This assertion was made by Pastor Happy Caldwell, <a href="http://www.agape-church.org/leaders.html"><span style="color:#0000ff;">founder of Agape Church</span></a>, a mega church in Little Rock, Arkansas. Caldwell is also an Executive Board Member with Christians United for Israel (CUFI), the influential pro-Israel organization founded by John Hagee. Caldwell wrote the following in the <a href="http://cufi.convio.net/site/TellAFriend?msgId=35188.0&amp;devId=43345">November 23, 2010 CUFI Weekly Update</a>:</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">“<em>The counsel of the Lord standeth forever, the thoughts of His heart to all generations. Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord: And the people whom He hath chosen for His own inheritance</em>”.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">In this Scripture we see the “future” of the nation of Israel, God’s chosen people.  God calls those things that be not as though they were.  He speaks the end results from the beginning. (Job 42:12) (Ecclesiastes 7:8) (Isaiah 46:9, 10)</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">“<em>For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the Lord, thoughts of peace, and not evil, to give you an expected end</em>”.  (Jeremiah 29:11)</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">As we pray for Israel today, let us remember God’s covenant with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.  Let us stand together with the Nation of Israel and thank God for the “expected end” . . . which is total peace, prosperity and victory.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">“<em>The counsel of the Lord standeth forever, the thoughts of His heart to all generations</em>.”</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">In other words, according to Caldwell, this passage (Psalm 33:11-12), which was written roughly 3000 years ago, is not presently being fulfilled, but it will be fulfilled one day for the geopolitical nation of Israel. To be fair, it’s not clear whether or not Caldwell believes this was once fulfilled in ancient Israel prior to the destruction of that nation in 70 AD. Caldwell also asserts that “God’s chosen people” is made up of the citizens of the nation of Israel (In his mind, does this include the Palestinians, since out of Israel’s population of about 7.6 million people <a href="http://www.cbs.gov.il/www/yarhon/b1_e.htm"><span style="color:#0000ff;">nearly 2 million are non-Jewis</span>h</a>?). It’s also clear that Caldwell makes a direct association between the modern nation of Israel and God’s covenant with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. We’ll discuss shortly why all these assertions are highly problematic.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The “biblecc” website is one I’ve found to be helpful in that it provides parallel commentaries for any given Scripture passage (as well as parallel translations). <a href="http://bible.cc/psalms/33-12.htm"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Their entry for Psalm 33:12</span></a> includes commentary from Albert Barnes (1834), Adam Clarke (1831), John Gill (1746-63), Charles Spurgeon – The Treasury of David (1869-85), the Geneva Study Bible, and Matthew Henry. The comments at the end of Albert Barnes’ entry are notable (emphasis added):</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">“And the people whom he hath chosen for his own inheritance &#8211; Chosen to be &#8220;His;&#8221; or, His portion. The primary reference here is undoubtedly to the Hebrew people, called his &#8220;inheritance:&#8221; <a href="http://bible.cc/deuteronomy/4-20.htm"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Deuteronomy 4:20</span></a>; <a href="http://bible.cc/deuteronomy/9-26.htm"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Deuteronomy 9:26</span></a>; <a href="http://bible.cc/deuteronomy/32-9.htm"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Deuteronomy 32:9</span></a>; <a href="http://bible.cc/psalms/74-2.htm"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Psalm 74:2</span></a>; <a href="http://niv.scripturetext.com/psalms/78-62.htm"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Psalm 78:62</span></a>, <a href="http://bible.cc/psalms/78-71.htm"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Psalm 78:71</span></a>; or &#8220;heritage,&#8221; <a href="http://bible.cc/psalms/94-5.htm"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Psalm 94:5</span></a>; <a href="http://niv.scripturetext.com/jeremiah/12-7.htm"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Jeremiah 12:7</span></a>,<a href="http://bible.cc/jeremiah/12-9.htm"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Jeremiah 12:9</span></a>; <strong>but what is here affirmed of that people is true also of all other people who worship the true God</strong>.”</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Barnes points to nine Old Testament passages where the term “inheritance” or “heritage” is used as a reference to the ancient nation of Israel. Is he correct in saying that “what is here affirmed of that people is true also of all other people who worship the true God”? Does the New Testament bear this out?</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">It certainly does. God’s major announcement in Exodus 19 regarding His chosen people finds its New Testament equivalent in I Peter 2, and a comparison of these two passages is very revealing. The following is an excerpt from a post I wrote in September titled, <strong><a href="http://kloposmasm.wordpress.com/2010/09/23/who-are-gods-chosen-people-and-why-are-they-chosen/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“Who Are God’s Chosen People and Why Are They Chosen?”</span></a></strong></p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">God has only ever had one chosen people, and no one (regardless of race) is part of God’s chosen people if they are outside of Christ. God’s chosen people in Old Testament times were chosen for the same purpose as God’s chosen people at this time. <strong>Compare what was spoken by Moses to “the people of Israel” (Exodus 19:3) to what has been spoken to the Church through Peter. The parallel language is unmistakable, and I have letter-coded the parallels (A, B, and C):</strong></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;"><strong>[1] To ancient national Israel: “<em>Now therefore, if you will indeed obey My voice and keep My covenant, you shall be</em></strong><strong> </strong><strong>[A]<em>MY TREASURED POSSESSION among all peoples, for all the earth is mine; and you shall be to Me</em></strong><strong> </strong><strong>[B]</strong><strong> </strong><strong><em>A KINGDOM OF PRIESTS and a</em></strong><strong> </strong><strong>[C]</strong><strong> </strong><strong><em>HOLY NATION</em></strong><strong>…” (Exodus 19:5-6).</strong></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;"><strong>[2] To the Church: “</strong><em><strong>But you are a chosen race</strong></em><strong>, [B]</strong><strong> </strong><em><strong>A ROYAL PRIESTHOOD, a</strong></em><strong> </strong><strong>[C]</strong><strong> </strong><em><strong>HOLY NATION, a people</strong></em><strong> </strong><strong>[A]</strong><strong> </strong><em><strong>FOR HIS OWN POSSESSION</strong></em><strong>,</strong><strong> </strong><em><strong>that you may proclaim the excellencies of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light. Once you were not a people, but now you are God’s people</strong></em><strong>…” (I Peter 2:9-10).</strong></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Can there be any question that the Church is chosen for the same purpose that the nation of Israel was once chosen? …Israel has never ceased to exist. The body of Christ today IS Israel in every true sense (see, for example, Romans 9:6-8 and Galatians 6:16). Outside of Christ there is no Israel (as God’s people), despite the fact that a secular, political nation in the Middle East happens to bear that name today. Romans 9:6-8 is most profound on this point (parenthetical notes are mine): “…<em>For not all who are descended from</em> [natural] <em>Israel belong to</em> [spiritual] <em>Israel, and not all are</em> [spiritual] <em>children of Abraham because they are his</em> [physical] <em>offspring…it is not the children of the flesh who are the children of God, but the children of the promise are counted as offspring</em>.” See this article for an excellent explanation of Galatians 6:16’s use of the phrase “<em>the Israel of God</em>” to refer to the Church: <a href="http://www.bible-researcher.com/gal6-16.html" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0000ff;">http://www.bible-researcher.com/gal6-16.html</span></a>. Furthermore, we who are in Christ are spiritual Jews, so to speak: “<em>For no one is a Jew who is merely one outwardly, nor is circumcision outward and physical. But a Jew is one inwardly, and circumcision is a matter of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter</em>…” (Romans 2:28-29; see also Philippians 3:3).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Galatians 3:16 further points out that all the promises were made to Abraham and his offspring, “<em>referring to One, ‘And to your offspring,’ who is Christ</em>.” In the same chapter, Paul says, “<em>And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s offspring, heirs according to promise</em>” (Gal. 3:29). Does Paul leave any room for those who are outside of Christ to be heirs of the promises? No, he doesn’t, not even for unbelieving Jews. Nor did Jesus (see, for example, John 8:31-47), nor does the New Testament in any place.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Today many teach that the Jews (meaning all ethnic Jews) are God’s chosen people. I believe this is classic false teaching. <strong>I Peter 2:9-10, already quoted here, makes it explicitly clear why God’s chosen people, the body of Christ (believing Jews and Gentiles), are chosen. His people have been called out of darkness and now have the privilege of proclaiming His excellencies to those who are still in darkness. Unbelieving Jews remain in darkness, and cannot possibly carry out any such calling. For those who teach that all ethnic Jews are God’s chosen people, the question remains: What are they (allegedly) chosen for at this present time?</strong></p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;"><strong> </strong></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">It’s for these same reasons that America cannot qualify as God’s chosen heritage, the nation spoken of in Psalm 33:12. The majority of people in America remain in darkness, just like the majority of Jews, and they don’t know the excellencies of Christ’s salvation, let alone have the ability to proclaim them. This calling belongs exclusively to those who are in Christ. Why do we look elsewhere, whether to America or to the nation of Israel, to find some group to fulfill it? Likewise, for Happy Caldwell to speak of Psalm 33:12 as awaiting a future fulfillment for a geopolitical nation is for him to effectively deny that God has had a chosen people for the last 2000 years walking in holiness as His special possession and proclaiming the gospel to those walking in darkness.</p>
<p style="text-align:center;">&nbsp;</p>
<div id="attachment_1491" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 135px"><a href="http://kloposmasm.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/cufi-christmas-ornament.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-1491     " title="CUFI Christmas ornament" src="http://kloposmasm.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/cufi-christmas-ornament.jpg" alt="" width="125" height="154" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">CUFI ornament depicting Israeli and US flag</p></div>
<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="https://secure2.convio.net/cufi/site/Donation2?df_id=2160&amp;amp;2160.donation=form1"><span style="color:#0000ff;">SOURCE</span></a></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">In another excerpt from <strong><a href="http://kloposmasm.wordpress.com/2010/09/23/who-are-gods-chosen-people-and-why-are-they-chosen/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">the Sept. 2010 post on God’s chosen people</span></a></strong>, we saw a quick rundown on what the New Testament has to say about God’s chosen people and why they are chosen:</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><strong> </strong></p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">[1] “<em>For many are called, but few are chosen</em>” (Matthew 22:14; see verses 1-13 for context).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">[2] “<em>You did not choose Me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit and that your fruit should abide, so that whatever you ask the Father in My name, He may give it to you</em>” (John 15:16).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">[3] “<em>If you were of the world, the world would love you as its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you</em>” (John 15:19).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">[4] “<em>Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, even as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before Him</em>…” (Ephesians 1:3-4; see also verses 5-14 for an even fuller description of what belongs to God’s chosen people).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">[5] See also Ephesians 2:11-22 [The word “chosen” is not used, but this passage speaks of God bringing those who were far off (Gentiles) “<em>near by the blood of Christ</em>,” creating “<em>one new man</em>”, “<em>one body</em>,” and breaking down the wall of hostility that separated them (us) from the “<em>the commonwealth of Israel</em>” and “<em>the covenants of promise</em>.”]</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">[6] “<em>Here there is not Greek and Jew, circumcised and uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave, free; but Christ is all, and in all. Put on then, as God’s chosen ones, holy and beloved, compassion, kindness, humility, meekness, and patience</em>…” (Colossians 3:11-12).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">[7] “<em>As you come to Him, a living stone rejected by men but in the sight of God chosen and precious, you yourselves like living stones are being built up as a spiritual house, to be a holy priesthood, to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ… But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for His own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light. Once you were not a people, but now you are God’s people; once you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy</em>” (I Peter 2:4-10).</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">Clearly God’s chosen people, according to these passages, are strictly those who belong to Christ. It’s all about bearing spiritual fruit, not being of this world, having every single spiritual blessing, being holy and blameless, being God’s own special possession, proclaiming His excellencies to those who are in darkness, receiving mercy, etc.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Again, these things aren’t true and can’t be true for unbelieving Jews, unbelieving Americans, unbelievers in any location, or for any geopolitical nation as a whole. Yet they are true for the Church. For those who are in Christ, let us rejoice that we are blessed to be part of that nation whose God is the Lord, and the people whom He has chosen as His heritage.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Maarschalk</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Synagogue of Satan Revealed (Good Teaching) By Adam Maarschalk (October 16, 2010) Earlier today I came across some excellent teaching at Cathy’s Peacemakers Blog (http://giannina.wordpress.com/) which I’d like to share here. It’s in the form of a 14-minute video put together by Bill White, her husband, whose own website (http://soulrefuge.org/) I have found to [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=kloposmasm.com&amp;blog=8756029&amp;post=1458&amp;subd=kloposmasm&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p style="text-align:center;">By Adam Maarschalk (October 16, 2010)</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Earlier today I came across some excellent teaching at Cathy’s <em>Peacemakers</em> Blog (<a href="http://giannina.wordpress.com/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">http://giannina.wordpress.com/</span></a>) which I’d like to share here. It’s in the form of a 14-minute video put together by Bill White, her husband, whose own website (<a href="http://soulrefuge.org/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">http://soulrefuge.org/</span></a>) I have found to be most excellent. <strong><a href="http://giannina.wordpress.com/2010/10/16/the-synagogue-of-satan-revealed-video/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Here’s the source</span></a></strong> for the teaching I’d like to point to. Following this video, I’d like to highlight some of Bill’s excellent points:</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">0:10 mark – The term “<em>synagogue of Satan</em>” is used twice in the book of Revelation (2:9 and 3:9), both times spoken by Jesus Himself “to describe a group of people who claim to be Jews but they were not.” <em>[If interested, we covered both of these passages in our study of Revelation, <strong><a href="http://kloposmasm.wordpress.com/2009/08/26/revelation-chapter-2-ephesus-and-smyrna/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">here</span></a></strong> and <strong><a href="http://kloposmasm.wordpress.com/2009/08/27/revelation-3-study/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">here</span></a></strong>, expressing the opinion that these were references to unbelieving Jews who were the chief persecutors of the Church prior to 70 AD.]</em></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">2:45 – Today the Lord is also very well aware of who in any church congregation are genuine believers and who are fake.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">3:00 – Jesus came to His own (the Jewish people), but they did not receive Him (John 1:11). Yet all who receive Him and believe on His name are given the power to become the sons of God (John 1:12). Most Jews, like most Gentiles, reject Christ.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">3:52 – The modern and popular teaching that the Church is God’s second choice, that the Kingdom is postponed, and that the Church is a mere parenthesis in God’s plan is hogwash and dispensational heresy. The majority of the Jewish people who claim to know God have no blood atonement. There’s no temple, no tabernacle, no blood sacrifices, and therefore they are missing the blood atonement which is necessary for sins to be forgiven. The exception, of course, are those Jews who do believe in Jesus and His finished work on the cross.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">4:32 – Don’t buy the teaching that ethnic Israel is God’s chosen people. “The term ‘chosen’ is never used to describe the Jewish people outside of Christ in the New Covenant… The term is only used in relation to those who believe in Jesus Christ.”</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">5:10 – John the Baptist told the Jews of his day that they could not automatically make any claim that Abraham was their father (Matthew 3:9), for God could even raise up children for Abraham from stones. <strong>The Abrahamic covenant is indeed everlasting, but it’s only everlasting in Jesus Christ.</strong> No one, not even Jews, can say they are a part of the Abrahamic covenant in any way if they reject Christ. To reject Christ is to reject “the whole package.”</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">6:05 – The “synagogue of Satan” was Jewish by nature, but God’s Word was not abiding in them. John was not impressed with their Jewish heritage, as many are today in the Church world.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">7:15 – The Old Testament Scriptures testify of Jesus (e.g. John 5:39-40), but the majority of the Jewish people, according to Jesus, would not come to Him in order to have life.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">9:15 – Jesus told the unbelieving Jews of His day that they were of their father the devil (John 8:44). Elsewhere, He referred to them as vipers/snakes, just as John the Baptist had done.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">10:08 – The apostle Paul declared that Jews are not those who are Jews outwardly, or through circumcision, but those who are Jews inwardly through the circumcision of the heart (Romans 2:28-29).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">11:02 – Abraham was promised to be the heir of the world. This was not limited to physical Israel (Romans 4:13). Christ is the promised Seed of Abraham, and “only true believers in Jesus Christ [are] counted as the true seed (descendants) of Abraham (Galatians 3:29).” In contradiction to these truths, John Hagee has taught that “Jewish people have a relationship with God through the Law of God…as given through Moses.” In other words, says Hagee, as long as they live in light of the Torah, they are in covenant with God. Yet the Bible makes it clear that all unbelievers, Jew or Gentile, have a covenant with death and the wrath of God abides on them (e.g. Mark 16:15-16, John 3:18, John 3:36, John 8:24).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">13:00 – By extension, the synagogue of Satan today is “a humongous ‘spiritual unseen synagogue’ …made up of people who claim to know God, but they do not know Him… Beware the synagogue of Satan.”</p>
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		<title>Stephen Sizer: Why Zionists Are Ticked Off About the Film &#8216;With God on Our Side&#8217;</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Oct 2010 22:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Maarschalk</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stephen Sizer: Why Zionists Are Ticked Off About the Film “With God on Our Side” by Adam Maarschalk (October 16, 2010) Back in late April I wrote a favorable review for the film documentary entitled, “With God on Our Side.” This film takes a critical look at the movement known as Christian Zionism, which by [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=kloposmasm.com&amp;blog=8756029&amp;post=1450&amp;subd=kloposmasm&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h3 style="text-align:center;"><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Stephen Sizer: Why Zionists Are Ticked Off About the Film “With God on Our Side”</span></h3>
<p style="text-align:center;">by Adam Maarschalk (October 16, 2010)</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Back in late April I wrote a favorable review for the film documentary entitled, “<em>With God on Our Side</em>.” This film takes a critical look at the movement known as Christian Zionism, which by and large gives uncritical support for the policies of the Israeli government and shows great partiality to the Jewish people at the expense of Palestinians and other non-Jews. The Bible, on the other hand, holds that Jews and non-Jews are equally lost without Christ, and that all who are in Christ have the same access to God’s blessings and promises regardless of ethnicity. The review I wrote on this film <strong><a href="http://kloposmasm.wordpress.com/2010/04/30/with-god-on-our-side-a-documentary-on-christian-zionism/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">can be seen here</span></a></strong>.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Then in July I wrote a critique of Jan Markell’s strong denunciation of this film. This critique <strong><a href="http://kloposmasm.wordpress.com/2010/07/16/a-review-of-jan-markells-review-of-with-god-on-our-side/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">can be seen here</span></a></strong>. One of the film’s participants was Stephen Sizer, a pastor in England who is also an author, theologian, and an international speaker specializing in topics relating to the land of Israel. Jan unfairly said of Sizer that he “cannot stand the stench of Israel,” a point which I know from reading his materials is not the least bit true. Beneath that post one person also left a comment which simply included three links attempting to associate Sizer with Dale Crowley, a Washington journalist known for denying the Holocaust. As far as I could tell, after examining those links, Sizer had merely cited a statistic from Crowley in order to answer a question asked of him in a video interview with Alan Hart. He also, in that same interview, cited a statistic from John Hagee, the founder of Christians United for Israel. No sound-minded person would suggest that Sizer, by doing so, endorsed the views of John Hagee.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The film, “<em>With God on Our Side</em>,” has not surprisingly stirred up a significant amount of opposition from supporters of Christian Zionism. However, I have yet to see any critiques of this film which deal with the actual content of the film in a fair way. Perhaps someone else knows of one?</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">A new critique has now come out, which <strong><a href="http://stephensizer.blogspot.com/2010/10/with-god-on-our-side-why-zionists-are.html"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Stephen Sizer wrote about on his blog last Sunday, October 10<sup>th</sup></span></a></strong>. This critique is in the form of a booklet, which I have not had a chance to read, and was written by Eliyahu Ben-Haim, a Jewish believer in Christ who ministers as a pastor in Israel. The booklet is being sold by <em>Intercessors for Israel</em>, with <strong><a href="http://www.ifi.org.il/store/books/setting-the-record-straight.ifi"><span style="color:#0000ff;">this description</span></a></strong>:</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">The original motivation to write this paper was to provide a response to the video &#8220;With God on our Side,&#8221; produced by Porter Speakman Jr. in 2010. The video is a direct attack upon Israel and upon &#8220;Christian Zionists,&#8221; that part of the Church that is standing with God’s plan for the restoration and salvation of Israel. The question of Israel’s legitimacy as a nation in the family of nations is an issue that is being raised more frequently every day even in the Church. In many circles, present day Israel as a fulfillment of God’s prophetic word is denied as a false interpretation of Scripture. This is a battle that is not going away but on the contrary will increase in intensity. In many ways the delegitimization of Israel is an attack on God’s character, His Word, His sovereignty and His covenants. It really brings into question the truth of Scripture and God’s promises to us through His Son Jesus. Most of you will never see this video and I don’t recommend it to anyone. However the questions it raises, the accusations it makes, need answers. I have tried to provide responses historically, legally and Scripturally.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">While it’s unfortunate that readers of this booklet are discouraged from viewing the documentary, it would seem to be a good thing that Eliyahu has attempted to interact with the questions raised in the film. How effectively or fairly he did so, I do not know, but the statement that <em>With God on Our Side</em> is “a direct attack upon Israel” already raises my level of skepticism. The following is Stephen Sizer’s assessment of Eliyahu’s critique:</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;"><a href="http://www.ifi.org.il/store/books/setting-the-record-straight.ifi"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Intercessors for Israel</span></a> have ill-advisedly rushed into print a rebuttal of the hugely popular new film <a href="http://www.withgodonourside.com/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">With God on our Side</span></a>. Entitled, <em>Setting the Record Straight</em>, the booklet wrongly claims our film is &#8220;a direct attack upon Israel&#8221;. It most certainly is not, either in intent or delivery.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;"><a href="http://www.withgodonourside.com/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">With God on our Side</span></a> is a direct challenge to the foolish idea that Christian Zionism has any biblical or moral foundation. It is an oxymoron, as absurd as to suggest that biblical Christianity and apartheid are in any way compatible. The Dutch Reformed Church in South Africa tried and failed and eventually repented. Would that Christian Zionists did the same.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">It is utterly reprehensible that so called Christians would try and justify on theological grounds the theft of land, the demolition of homes, the destruction of property, the creation of ghettos and the denial of fundamental human rights, in order to create what is increasingly becoming a racist state.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">It is not an understatement to say that what is at stake is our understanding of the gospel, the centrality of the cross, the role of the church, and the nature of our missionary mandate, not least, to the beloved Jewish people. <strong>If we don’t see Jesus at the heart of the Hebrew scriptures, and the continuity between his Old Testament and New Testament saints in the one inclusive Church, we’re not reading them correctly. The key question is this: “Was the coming of Jesus and the birth of the Church the fulfilment or the postponement of the promises God made to Abraham?”</strong></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">Christian Zionists see the promises of identity, land and destiny as part of an ongoing covenant God has with the Jewish people. In <a href="http://www.stephensizer.com/books/zions-christian-soldiers/">Zion&#8217;s Christian Soldiers</a> I unpack this question and show that Christian Zionism is a recent manifestation of a heresy conclusively refuted by the New Testament.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">For a clear and comprehensive refutation of Christian Zionism see <a href="http://www.stephensizer.com/books/zions-christian-soldiers/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Zion&#8217;s Christian Soldiers</span></a><a href="http://www.stephensizer.com/books/zions-christian-soldiers/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">: The Bible, Israel and the Church</span>.</a></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">I so appreciate Sizer’s point that Jesus is at the heart of the Hebrew Scriptures, and that there is great continuity rather than a disconnect between the people of God before and after Christ’s first coming.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">How would you answer Sizer’s key question: “Was the coming of Jesus and the birth of the Church [a] the fulfillment or [b] the postponement of the promises God made to Abraham?” My answer is that this was the <span style="text-decoration:underline;">fulfillment</span> of God’s promises to Abraham, and that all of God’s promises are fulfilled in Christ and that none remain to be fulfilled outside of Christ. What’s your answer?</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Sizer also said this regarding Christian Zionism, and all the implications of following this movement and accepting its claims: “It is not an understatement to say that what is at stake is our understanding of the gospel, the centrality of the cross, the role of the church, and the nature of our missionary mandate, not least, to the beloved Jewish people.” That’s quite a statement. How do you find this to be, or perhaps not to be, true?</p>
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